March 2016 Indian Car Sales Figures

[1989rs500]

@Ksdr

MSIL uses excellent tech Variable displacement AC compressor which is used in high end cars below source link.

Sanden Vikas

-suryaputhra

Hello,
Why no answer to my questions?
And why shy away from facts?

Also variable displacement AC compressor is a goof technology,and despite this tech why is it that Swift,Dzire, nothing comes close to Ford when it comes to cooling cabin within 2 minutes,
Because though old tech, Ford still uses the biggest AC compressor in its class, 110 cc compressor,expensive inside but modest outside,
See dont justify MSIL, there is no use, sure I applaud them for helping India move when we were developing roots, but post 2006 no MSIL can be said as better or even class rivaling, they are just plain ordinary overpriced products.

 

[ksdr]

@Ksdr

MSIL uses excellent tech Variable displacement AC compressor which is used in high end cars below source link.

Sanden Vikas

-suryaputhra

I am aware of each and every part of MSIL as my brother is the authorized spare parts distributor here from 2007.

 

[Suryaputhra]

@Ksdr,

So what do you know about every part of MSIL.

-suryaputhra

 

[ksdr]

@Ksdr,

So what do you know about every part of MSIL.

-suryaputhra

I was part of the company when the spare parts distribution was started in Vijayawada. Being part of that I came to know what sort of parts were being replaced frequently and also observed that frequently replaced parts like bumpers and fenders are so delicate that many a times they get damaged in transit to from gurgaon to Vijayawada. Now it's been 7 years since I have not been following that business.

 

[vishalpsali]

Please answer my question,
5 star SWifts for Europe while 0 star SWifts for India
Do you feel thats how one should be, double standards and that despite India being so damn loyal to MSIL for the past 30 years

Same is also the case with Hyundai i10. This is a car made in India for the world. But European version scores 5 star and Indian version 0 star .

 

[Suryaputhra]

That happens with every car and dealer. It has been reported in honda and hyundai too, many multi brand mechanics revealed me.

-suryaputhra

 

[1989rs500]

@vishalpsali
True man, see Indias biggest market share holders MSIL and Hyundai, both these brands give a damn about Indian lives, they just want to make money and dosent give any importance to things that matter,
Poor Indians still keep on fallig for these un healthy brands thinking that they are better because they have more ASS and more cars on display!

Thats why I posted before the real heroes in our Indian market is the low market share brands that manage to make sales growth, because MSIL and Hyundai has made India so much hostile for good brands to grow, yet they fight relentlessly with outstanding products,
I really appreciate Tata,Renault,Ford
The work these brands have done is tremendous considering all the odds they have to face in India,they do have their share of failures like poor ASS,poor dealerships, etc but still are not ready to sacrifice quality within products,

I am genuinely blown away by how good Tata has become, Tata is light years better than MSIL, the Bolt was an uber surprise, built like a tank, smart engine, good power,good driving, nice NVH, good comfort and handling wise to far better than MSIL,
After driving Tata I felt pity on MSIL and even Hyundais,
The new Tiago is also smashing, what a work by Tata, MSIL is no way near as good as Tata,
The new upcoming Hexa, just google it, I mean it looks like a Skoda rather than say a Tata, no MSIL can come even close to Hexa,
So are the Fords and some Renaults, and they managed a sales gain in India. So my vote goes to them and full support to those brands for making such brilliant cars, in the sea of pathetic MSIl and Hyundais,
They show the way motoring is to be done, sadly Indian population dosent whole heartedly support such efforts,
I believe the work they have done will never go in vain,
Wish all these low volume smart car manufacturers all the best.

 

[acechip]

Folks, bashing up MSIL or Hyundai for their success is just a waste of intellectual time, frankly speaking. Ultimately, they do cater to over 50% of the consumers car needs, each year! So, atleast in the eyes of the consumer, their success is well deserved. If the Indian consumer wants a lower-grade build quality, and higher mileage, you only have to blame him/her. How many people EVER ask the quality of build as their first question when they enter the showroom ? We Indians like to buy the lowest end version of the cars so we can fit in a garish pink looking Audio worth 15K , and dollops of chrome as if it were car jewellery.

 

[1989rs500]

Folks, bashing up MSIL or Hyundai for their success is just a waste of intellectual time, frankly speaking. Ultimately, they do cater to over 50% of the consumers car needs, each year! So, atleast in the eyes of the consumer, their success is well deserved. If the Indian consumer wants a lower-grade build quality, and higher mileage, you only have to blame him/her. How many people EVER ask the quality of build as their first question when they enter the showroom ? We Indians like to buy the lowest end version of the cars so we can fit in a garish pink looking Audio worth 15K , and dollops of chrome as if it were car jewellery.

Thats what we Indians like and as said before, brands like Tata,Ford,VW are trying to change that and thats why I give credit to them rather than giving credit to MSIL and Hyundais whose success lies in exploiting Indias weakness.

 

[Suryaputhra]

So in the list Hyundai is added, lot of peple talk about tata and ford reliability issues is that true

-suryaputhra

 

[1989rs500]

So in the list Hyundai is added, lot of peple talk about tata and ford reliability issues is that true

-suryaputhra

Yes its true, Ford diesels are not as reliable as Toyota,MSIL
But its as reliable or better than VW,NIssan,Renault,Hyundai
Ford petrols however are as reliable as Toyota,Honda,MSIL, or any others you name it.
Regarding my question, scary cat, no answer yet, no point in beating around the bush, MSIL is pathetic, so is Hyundai,
Again dont forget question 5 star Swift for Europe while 0 star ones for India, and dont even think of other small cars , they are plain garbage

 

[Suryaputhra]

We can not change someone's views it doesn't mean that we are afraid or scary.

-suryaputra

 

[vishalpsali]

Yes its true, Ford diesels are not as reliable as Toyota,MSIL
But its as reliable or better than VW,NIssan,Renault,Hyundai
Ford petrols however are as reliable as Toyota,Honda,MSIL, or any others you name it.
Regarding my question, scary cat, no answer yet, no point in beating around the bush, MSIL is pathetic, so is Hyundai,
Again dont forget question 5 star Swift for Europe while 0 star ones for India, and dont even think of other small cars , they are plain garbage

They may be making 5 star for Europe because that is what local regulations may be demanding. However in India the 0 star may be acceptable. These star ratings may not be uniform across the globe. It may be region specific because I guess as of now there are no uniform global standards for road safety.

Again we should know based on what regulations this star ratings are given. Is this regulation same in India and Europe? The comparison can only be done if regulations are same in both regions. A 0 star in Europe necessarily does not mean a 0 star in India. If at all we have any star ratings here. I do not know it. And as far as I know every car that is sold in India will definitely follow Indian standards of safety.

Most of the brands mentioned here in this threads have failed safety tests in some part of world. So its not just MSIL or HYUNDAI. The best car in India could well b a miserable car in some other country.

Rather than doing comparisons of the manufacturers we should be discussing how regulations in India could be made as stringent as Europe etc. The cars may cost a bit more if companies follow strict norms but that extra will ensure Safety on roads.

Anyways we are all Indians and our driving and road sense can even turn a BATTLE TANK to a Tin Can.

 

[vm2011]

Guys- Stick to the topic of this thread.
Manufactures build cars to suit the safety regulations of the country. If we do not have one blame the system for that. Hopefully in 2017 and beyond though not stringent as the Euro NCAP we expect all cars to be tested with safety ratings declared.

Coming back to the Topic- Here are the winners and losers of April 2016 car sales. Mercedes Benz continue to lead in the luxury segment with Audi taking the 2nd Spot.
Volvo does good volumes when compared to 2015 sales figures!
VW/Skoda - will not have new mass products until 2018
FIAT- No idea , seem to follow VW way, can see products beyond 2018 ( New Punto/ Linea)
GM - will struggle as Chinese products is all they seem to offer us
Toyota - No game plan yet . 2018 and beyond- Vios, sub compact SUV?
Honda - BR-V now, Jazz based CUV, Civic, Accord are some products other than the next Gen Brio/Amaze that will be seen in 2017



Source:Management Punditz

 

[nishant5858]

Wow, Audi does higher numbers then Skoda. Cannot believe what I am seeing here. Skoda have the most wonderful cars, but thier After Sales story doesn't inspire confidence to get those amazing products.