Global NCAP Results: Popular Small Cars Alto, i10, Nano Fail Crash Test

[a4arun]

I dont know when these companies will give importance to indian souls.

The answer is simple. We customers do not value our souls and buy cars which are unsafe. But again safer cars are costly and is not affordable to everyone. It's a catch 22 situation. The onus is on the customers to buy safe cars. However it is governments responsibility to test the car safety and publish them along with ARAI figures to enable end users to make informed decisions.

One thing is for sure. I am never going to set my foot ever again in a Renault or Maruti showroom.

 

[driver333]

On the contrary, the sales is in exactly opposite. to the build quality of these vehicles. May be we are much inclined towards mileage rather than safety. Government should take corrective actions, to let the manufacturers follow the stringent rules.

I dont know when these companies will give importance to indian souls.

The question of mileage and cost of the vehicle are the biggest deciding factors for an Indian. Yes, the cost margin considered while buying vehicles has increased over the years (easy availability of loans, higher average income, more options in the market) but the factors considered for value for money vehicles has not changed a bit. Sadly the biggest value for money factor for most Indians over the years has been and is mileage.

 

[acechip]

As far as zero rating is concerned, even if they test a battle tank and crash it at 64 kph, it will be rated 0 star for lack of airbags, never mind if the testing facility gets demolished in the process (to quote a funny line from another forum). But on a serious note, the observation of smaller airbag and unstable shell (inability to withstand loading of crashes beyond 64kph) is pertinent and concerning. I wonder how many such cars sold in India are waiting to be discovered as below par ? So, as far as current safety position from Global NCAP perspective is concerned, only VW Polo and Etios/Liva score 4 stars with stable body structure. Zest is an honorable mention, with 4 stars and unstable body structure.

 

[ccprakash]

One thing i dont understand is if we compare the maruti and tata cars(same segment cars). Tata cars are far better in the body structure, but why the sales is too less.

Government should take necessary steps here to publish all the details to the end user and need to educate people on the value of life. Why iam telling is, yday i was discussing about the duster ratings with one guy. He was telling me that my car(swift base version) met with an accident twice and nothing happend.

He is thinking swift was better built car. I think majority of people are not aware of the crash test results of indian version of swift

 

[AbhisekVerma]

As far as zero rating is concerned, even if they test a battle tank and crash it at 64 kph, it will be rated 0 star for lack of airbags, never mind if the testing facility gets demolished in the process (to quote a funny line from another forum). But on a serious note, the observation of smaller airbag and unstable shell (inability to withstand loading of crashes beyond 64kph) is pertinent and concerning. I wonder how many such cars sold in India are waiting to be discovered as below par ? So, as far as current safety position from Global NCAP perspective is concerned, only VW Polo and Etios/Liva score 4 stars with stable body structure. Zest is an honorable mention, with 4 stars and unstable body structure.

4 stars for Zest too should mean stable structure. The earlier version of Zest which was tested had unstable structure but the 4 stars is a rating of stable structure with safety features. Just putting airbags with unstable structure doesn't give you 4 stars. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[carcommentor]

I am sure many car buyers are aware of ratings now a days but don't think it is a big deal. When lakhs of cars are running safely without any rating, no one gives priority to rating. The other day, even 5 star Merc crumbled and 2 people inside died. There is no statistics by any agency which shows how many people died in a 0 star rated car against a higher rated car. Unless someone collates such data and advertises it relentlessly, this situation of relegating safety rating to the bottom will continue.

 

[Vishwas]

Airbag-equipped Ford Aspire gets 3 stars, Chevrolet Enjoy zero in latest EuroNCAP tests.

IMHO there's no need to crash test the Enjoy at all, firstly it's of China Origin which has been developed for utility more than the safety, second India is the next market for MPVs/MUVs where people still give priority for utility more than safety.

If anybody's concerned out for EuroNcap Ratings in MPVs then Indians need more Mercedes Vans

I am sure many car buyers are aware of ratings now a days but don't think it is a big deal. When lakhs of cars are running safely without any rating, no one gives priority to rating. The other day, even 5 star Merc crumbled and 2 people inside died. There is no statistics by any agency which shows how many people died in a 0 star rated car against a higher rated car. Unless someone collates such data and advertises it relentlessly, this situation of relegating safety rating to the bottom will continue.

To tell you the fact behind this is the collision impact matters and most importantly your presence of mind to avoid the level of hit you have to take, but that doesn't mean I'm nay saying about the effectiveness of safety features offered in the cars, but they will definitely aid in lessening the level of Impact.

 

[acechip]

4 stars for Zest too should mean stable structure. The earlier version of Zest which was tested had unstable structure but the 4 stars is a rating of stable structure with safety features. Just putting airbags with unstable structure doesn't give you 4 stars. Correct me if I am wrong.

No, it has been awarded 4 stars with an unstable body structure. See the test result in the link below.
http://www.globalncap.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/2016-Zest-2Airbags.pdf

Lets also not forget that the 2017 Ford Mustang suffered an embarassing 2 stars in the Euro NCAP.

The bottom line is, these ratings provide something better than 'empirical' means to judge the car's crash safety. The more varied tests you conduct, the more potential for improvement is created.

 

[AbhisekVerma]

No, it has been awarded 4 stars with an unstable body structure. See the test result in the link below.
http://www.globalncap.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/2016-Zest-2Airbags.pdf

Lets also not forget that the 2017 Ford Mustang suffered an embarassing 2 stars in the Euro NCAP.

The bottom line is, these ratings provide something better than 'empirical' means to judge the car's crash safety. The more varied tests you conduct, the more potential for improvement is created.

Thanks for the data. But still I don't understand the point of giving 4 stars to an unstable structure. That means the stars don't give the true picture.

I am really saddened with the small airbag provided for Indian Duster. This is atrocious and blatant cheating. This news is all over and reputation and Reliability of Renault has been worse now.

http://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/shocking-renault-duster-in-india-has-smaller-unsafe-airbags-than-in-foreign-vari/298831

 

[acechip]

There is also a question of how many cases like this (Airbag size difference) exist for other Indian models vs their export/world equivalent. Duster was called out on this one, but its possible that others are doing something similar.

 

[Udit]

Unstable body structure doesn't really mean a bad star rating. Rating is capped on the basis of injuries faced by dummies. If crash dummy gets acute impact on head or chest, then no matter how stable body shell is, car will get a poor rating. Also, body shell stability is analysed after crash, it just means body shell is no more able to withstand further loading. So if at ODB 64, a car shell is rated unstable, it is more likely to fail a crash test above 64 kmph. Actually crash often has relative speeds of two vehicles. Which are usually higher than the crash test speeds. Also, sometimes objects involved in crash are non deformable(trees, pillers, even some trucks and buses). So even if the car has a 5 star rating and stable body shell, accidents can still kill people inside the car.

 

[vm2011]

2017 Suzuki Swift gets 3 and 4 stars ( w/safety pack) - EURONCAP

Japanese made 2017 Suzuki SWIFT undergoes EURONCAP crash tests,



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1a6DLBhntI

 

[GautamJ]

Re: 2017 Suzuki Swift gets 3 and 4 stars ( w/safety pack) - EURONCAP

Same won't imply on Swift for Indian markets. Side airbags won't be available even as an option according to me.

 

[Akash1886]

Re: 2017 Suzuki Swift gets 3 and 4 stars ( w/safety pack) - EURONCAP

This rating is acceptable to Suzuki's export model Swift only. In India, neither the build quality nor safety features will be same. In India the Swift we get has scored a Zero in safety ratings so this time around Maruti has a chance to correct it's wrong doings towards the Indian buyers of Swift. The crash test speed for Indian spec Swift for all purposes must be maintained at 60-65 km/hr unlike 40-50 km/hr in Euroncap so that in India we also get to know how stable the structure is of the new Swift. Also, we should look forward to crash test results that prove the worth of the new Swift for the Indian market. Not to forget, not just Swift, even Celerio got a Zero in India where as Export model in UK of the Celerio comes with 6 Airbags etc(http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/f...-revealed-returns-23-1-kpl-14.html#post417369). This Swift with such safety features will never make it to India at least not in near future.

Regards

Akash

 

[vm2011]

Re: 2017 Suzuki Swift gets 3 and 4 stars ( w/safety pack) - EURONCAP

Same won't imply on Swift for Indian markets. Side airbags won't be available even as an option according to me.

---This Swift with such safety features will never make it to India at least not in near future.

We will anyways get the crash worthiness of new cars when the Bharat New Vehicle Safety Assessment Program (BNVSAP) effective October 2017.

Until then this discussion and speculation on the crash ratings of the upcoming 2018 Indian built Swift doesn't make sense.