Maruti Suzuki Celerio Diesel Now Launched! (Details: Page 7)

[vm2011]

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Celerio diesel DDIS125 demo cars in transit,



Spied -Maruti Celerio DDIS 125 Demo Car

 

[vm2011]

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Maruti Suzuki all ready to launch the Celerio Diesel variant as Celerio DDis 125 on 3rd June (?).

Maruti Celerio Diesel launch date confirmed, 3rd June ?

 

[vm2011]

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Celerio diesel will be the most fuel efficient car in India.

The upcoming Maruti Celerio diesel will become the most fuel efficient car in the country with ARAI figures indicating a mileage of 27.62kpl.

Maruti’s first home-grown diesel engine will displace 793cc and churn out 47bhp at 3500rpm and 12.7kgm of torque at 2000rpm. It will be available with a five-speed manual gearbox, but an AMT gearbox won't be offered anytime soon .The Celerio diesel’s DDiS125 badge indicates the torque output of this new engine with 12.7kgm translating to 125Nm of torque.

Maruti Celerio diesel specifications leaked | Car News | Budget hatchbacks | Autocar India

 

[gaddambhargavareddy]

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Is this two cylinder 800 cc diesel engine All Aluminium engine Block or Cost iron block?



And when we compared this engine with TATA ACE Dicor TCIC(2cylinder 798cc) engine the power and torque figures are marinally different to each other

Maruti's 800cc Twin cylinder turbo diesel engine specs

Type - CRDI Turbo aka DDIS

Displacement - 793cc

Power - 47BHP at 3500rpm

Torque - 127NM at 2000rpm

TATA's 800cc Dicor TCIC engine specs

Type - All Aluminium 4 stroke, Direct Injection, Common Rail, Turbocharged, Intercooled, Diesel engine

Displacement - 798cc

Power output - 40.2 BHP at 3750rpm

Torque - 94NM @ 2000-2500rpm

 

[furious_driver]

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If priced close to Beat, then IMO, MSIL is arrogant! Why? For gods sake, this is 2 cyl engine and Beat is 3 cyl, higher displacement and build is better than Celerio IMO. Let's wait and see. But one thing for sure, people will buy this, just because it is from MSIL.

 

[Akash1886]

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If priced close to Beat, then IMO, MSIL is arrogant! Why? For gods sake, this is 2 cyl engine and Beat is 3 cyl, higher displacement and build is better than Celerio IMO. Let's wait and see.

FD agreed, I feel in Indian market, Brands like Maruti are surviving only due to their standing among buyers. Their products are actually priced competitively to others and no matter what are the technical specs, Maruti feels over-confidant because of their past success and the knowledge of the Indian Market. It is us customers who should take wise and calculated decision based on merits of the car as a whole and not go by the brand name.

But one thing for sure, people will buy this, just because it is from MSIL.

Here it becomes Maruti Vs GM (if compared to Beat). So unanimously Maruti gets the upper hand. Reasons are better customer support, ease of maintenance due to wide network. Any hatchback in present, if competes with Maruti will surely find tough to beat Maruti hatchback. Hence, due to above mentioned reasons, people are more inclined for Maruti.

Regards

Akash

 

[furious_driver]

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Here it becomes Maruti Vs GM (if compared to Beat). So unanimously Maruti gets the upper hand. Reasons are better customer support, ease of maintenance due to wide network. Any hatchback in present, if competes with Maruti will surely find tough to beat Maruti hatchback. Hence, due to above mentioned reasons, people are more inclined for Maruti.

Regards

Akash

This is what I am against. In fact, from what I heard, Beat maintenance costs are equal or less than MSIL counterpart. But just because it is from MSIL, people go for it w/o any second thought! I get it, MSIL has this and that, but people's habit made MSIL a don of car markets in India. It is as if like, they are doing us favors by allotting cars! And whatever MSIL brings to India, it will sell well. And no matter what, people blindly trust them, just because they are CHEAP and have good A.S.S!! No, that's not true anymore.

If this is going to be hit, it will set a bad example in market! And it will be just matter of few years before others too follow the same path, and we can see lot of 2 cylinder cars on our street for not-so-reasonable cost. I hated 3 cylinder Petrol engines in cars, but now a 2 cylinder diesel engine? Next what? They will plonk Pulsar 200 engine and sell it?

 

[vm2011]

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If this is going to be hit, it will set a bad example in market! .....

Let us await the official reviews and then go for/against it. Understand they have taken considerable time for getting an acceptable refinement in noise and performance.

 

[Akash1886]

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In fact, from what I heard, Beat maintenance costs are equal or less than MSIL counterpart.

When I owned an Optra and went to the GM ASC here in Noida, just asked them which models are easiest to maintain in GM? Their reply, Spark and Beat! Rest all are expensive. So, I relate to you on this view.

But just because it is from MSIL, people go for it w/o any second thought! I get it, MSIL has this and that, but people's habit made MSIL a don of car markets in India. It is as if like, they are doing us favors by allotting cars! And whatever MSIL brings to India, it will sell well. And no matter what, people blindly trust them, just because they are CHEAP and have good A.S.S!! No, that's not true anymore.

You see, no matter what the cost cutting is done by Maruti in their cars, but people still buy because that's the most reliable brand in India since ages. People don't think twice before booking Swift Vxi too even after knowing that it has no safety. All they know is, it belongs to Maruti and gives good FE. Had the people been wise enough in selecting a good car, many models by Maruti would have been in cold-storage long back. But, why to blame the company, we customers only give them the right to provide us with what benefits them and not necessarily us.

If this is going to be hit, it will set a bad example in market! And it will be just matter of few years before others too follow the same path, and we can see lot of 2 cylinder cars on our street for not-so-reasonable cost.

FD, you can't deny the fact that Indian auto market is banking upon what's called as "Herd Mentality". By "Herd Mentality" I mean, if a particular product of one brand succeeds then the same platform will be used by other brands in the industry to roll out a similar product and compete with it. This is the same way how the Sub-4m segment has developed in India in past 5-6 years. After TATA, every brand explored the space in the segment. Also remember, No car in India will ever be a flop, we have diverse buyer base here buddy.

I hated 3 cylinder Petrol engines in cars, but now a 2 cylinder diesel engine? Next what? They will plonk Pulsar 200 engine and sell it?

Probably the brand doesn't pay heed to the emotions and sentiments of a handful buddy. They look at big picture and feasibility.

Regards

Akash

 

[furious_driver]

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I agree with you Akash! But as a company, MSIL should have some common sense. Why give 2 cylinder engine to a car? It makes me think like, MSIL think Indians are cheap guys! Although it is partly true, but a big company doing this is derogatory IMO!

 

[Akash1886]

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But as a company, MSIL should have some common sense. Why give 2 cylinder engine to a car?

As its said "necessity is mother of all inventions". Their study and understanding of the Indian market has made them take this step.

It makes me think like, MSIL think Indians are cheap guys! Although it is partly true, but a big company doing this is derogatory IMO!

How did Maruti make this perception of us? Ever thought?

Regards

Akash

 

[furious_driver]

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As its said "necessity is mother of all inventions". Their study and understanding of the Indian market has made them take this step.

As I said, people do have big part of their launch, but what made them stoop to such level. I mean, Celerio is doing well, and what's harm in bringing in a 3cyl diesel engine like Beat? Since it is also from Fiat(I believe) it wouldn't be an issue for them. But this is something plain disgusting. I understand they want profit, but going by their logic, with this Celerio diesel sh*t, they should be making hell a lot of profit! But in turn, they give to their customer a PoS product?

How did Maruti make this perception of us? Ever thought?

Regards

Akash

I ain't going to reply for this. After having look at what other markets are getting, I am more than devastated on our auto industry. I don't expect them to give products like the people in US,AU have. But not to such North Korea level product!!!

 

[Akash1886]

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but what made them stoop to such level. I mean, Celerio is doing well, and what's harm in bringing in a 3cyl diesel engine like Beat?

FD, It is like Choose A or B, A has powerful engine, better performance and adequately higher price where as B has slightly low power, but FE is good, average in safety and comparatively less in price. So, at large, the choice of our Indian market is sadly the B Options. This Diesel Celerio is result of choosing options like B by us the common people.

but going by their logic, with this Celerio diesel ****, they should be making hell a lot of profit! But in turn, they give to their customer a PoS product?

Of-course they will and they do know for obvious reasons that their product will sell. Call it the apathy, but its true.

After having look at what other markets are getting, I am more than devastated on our auto industry. I don't expect them to give products like the people in US,AU have. But not to such North Korea level product!!!

Why? Are we Indian buyers so less important? If I recall correctly, Celerio was the one which Maruti planned to export to some other country but it lost the right to export it since the Celerio(Indian spec) was not safe. The day we realize and take a stand for better and safe products, the game shall change. Its just to be seen when it happens though as it won't be easy for the majority of Indian buyers to come out of their shell and change their perceptions.

Regards

Akash

 

[furious_driver]

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But when? When are we, Indians, going to come out of our shell? Even educated consumer is not getting the perception right. I had hard time, explaining people and thus stopped suggesting. If someone, genuinely ask me for suggestion I will make. But that is like 5/100. Rest all, either they already selected and just ask us for sake, and the rest, are simply idiots, who never agree with anyone.

I had a friend, who was hell bent on Swift VDI, even though he can easily get ZDI. When asked, he said, "Dude, I saved money by not getting ABS & Airbags. Those will not work here in Indian roads!". So I guess we should start some kinda awareness programs to educate the educated customers and other too!

 

[GrandRk]

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I had a friend, who was hell bent on Swift VDI, even though he can easily get ZDI. When asked, he said, "Dude, I saved money by not getting ABS & Airbags. Those will not work here in Indian roads!". So I guess we should start some kinda awareness programs to educate the educated customers and other too!

One of my colleague bought Swift LXi though he was having funds for ZXi, upon asking him he told me "I didn't like company fitted Swift stereo unit"