Maruti Suzuki Celerio Diesel Now Launched! (Details: Page 7)

[Kichu]

Even if competition offers gold coins, M-Fans would happily take Maruti's silver coins and try to explain how and why silver is better value than gold. It comes from the "I AM the best; hence what I OWN HAS TO BE THE BEST" mentality.

Bro, you were so high on blaming ALL M-fans or M-lovers.
Are you sure all m-lovers can be put into the same categoryike, they blame each and every other cars except the cars from maruti??? If you say yes; then it shows your immaturity.
Your words were not specific towards the PEOPLE who blame each and every other cars expect the cars from maruti. Moreover I believe there are such kinds of people from every other brand-fans too.
Instead, here it was an insult towards the WHOLE maruti lovers/fans.
Which means your bad sarcasm was even towards the good maruti fans/owners. How lame.
Have you thought how bad will they feel when they go through this thread and your post?

Many who heckled Linea for having just 1300cc engine and Fiesta for that 1400cc are now proud owners of Ciaz Diesel. Thank God they have not come up with "Why Ciaz is better than Audi A3" logic.

Certain people must have blamed the linea and fiesta because of their 1.3 and 1.4L engine cars. And certain people must have brought ciaz out of these linea and fiesta.
But are you sure its the very SAME PEOPLE or the only people, who brought this car Ciaz after blaming Linea and Fiesta for their engines???

I never praised Nano, but never degraded it anywhere!

Hi fd,
Why cant you do the same with every other cars?

At least it is cheaper than Celerio and now with AMT, it is far more VFM than this! If Nano priced it little bit more, they rant. But MSIL price it a bomb, no one bats an eye! I find this plain stupid and dumb and whatnot.

OMG OMG, Heights of comparison!!!
A 4 seater, 10hp lesser Nano petrol AMt with Celerio Diesel Manual. LOL


You must have blamed BEAT diesel in the same way by comparing it with the petrol AltoK10 AMT which is a 5 seater, +10hp extrahp, +7L extra bootspace and with 24kmpl mileage. Isn't it?

As long as we have enough people to support MSIL, even if they offer them crappy products, then we have no hope of getting VFM products from them! And before we realize all competitors started follow this trend and we ended up with such sub-par product flooding in our streets.

According to you.

• Only Maruti and maruti fans/owners are bad enough to make such bad products and to buy those bad products respectively. Isn't?
  -THen why are you worried that other Good competitors will also follow the same trend.???
• Lets assume, for some reason those GOOD competitors also started following this trend.
  -But still why are you worrying? Since other competitors FANS/OWNERS are intelligent enough not to go for a "cheap crappy products from maruti", then why do you expect them to buy those crappy products from the other brands?

Seems like you are an absolute Maruti Hater. (Sorry if I'm wrong.)

Indeed. India doesn't have strict rules like in US. I guess in US or EU, Hyundai faced some charges for quoting wrong FE in ads, and the percentage of error was less, but still it get charged. But in India, no such rules, and companies like MSIL, takes it for ride.

Maruti always claims higher FE to entice customers to thier showrooms. People blindly believe that and hence other things wont/don't matter

Dont have experience with the Ciaz mileage. How many kilometers did it run? Even after the initial period of usage if the highway mileage is no where closer to the claimed mileage then report it to the maruti and make them prove how to achieve this mileage in your car by testing the mileage by the Maruti authorised people in the presence of you.

Our Vento tdi gives around 12-13.5kmpl with AC in city driving condition(rarely 2 on board) in against to the arai claimed 20+kmpl, hope it will improve after 5-10k kms.
Where as our A-star gives about 14to16kmpl with AC in city driving condition with mostly 2-3 on board in against to the arai claimed 19+kmpl.
THe highest it gave till date is 23.7kmpl with morethan 80% of highway usage without AC and with 5 people on board.
But still A-star's initial days of mileage use to be around 13-15kmpl in city even without AC.

On a recent long trip of 782kms with our A-star(With 4 on board and with lots of luggage)it gave 17.2kmpl with AC. Travel time is approx 21-22hrs.
Atleast in the case of the maruti car that we own, we cant blame maruti for giving such a high FE claims.
When A-star was launched way back in 2008, I believe it was the only car(or one of the car) which had the highest claimed mileage in India.

Regards.,

 

[furious_driver]

Bro, you were so high on blaming ALL M-fans or M-lovers.
Are you sure all m-lovers can be put into the same categoryike, they blame each and every other cars except the cars from maruti??? If you say yes; then it shows your immaturity.
Your words were not specific towards the PEOPLE who blame each and every other cars expect the cars from maruti. Moreover I believe there are such kinds of people from every other brand-fans too.
Instead, here it was an insult towards the WHOLE maruti lovers/fans.
Which means your bad sarcasm was even towards the good maruti fans/owners. How lame.
Have you thought how bad will they feel when they go through this thread and your post?

It is not about ranting on INFORMED buyer, but rather the other party. Who simply put their trust in a BRAND and wouldn't even consider another brand. On top of that, he goes on claiming others cars are so bad, when he doesn't even own or drive one. I don't see anyone hurt, if they made informed decision. But how many potential customers of MSIL are informed/educated/know-before-buy guys? Cheating an innocent guys is a crime, and I strongly believe this. I can't stand to watch my neighbor/friend/relative got cheated by MSIL and try my level best to help them!

If you are hurt that means, either your are immature or you made bad decision. I have seen rants on Grand/Xcent siblings on various forums, yet I never felt hurt, because I knew what I was getting and I am happy with it!

Hi fd,
Why cant you do the same with every other cars?

Because I am not insane!

OMG OMG, Heights of comparison!!!
A 4 seater, 10hp lesser Nano petrol AMt with Celerio Diesel Manual. LOL

Ha ha! And Nano weighs a lot lesser than the +10hp celerio. Duh! Even with just -10hp, TATA didn't overprice it. They priced it sensibly unlike MSIL who priced it more.

You must have blamed BEAT diesel in the same way by comparing it with the petrol AltoK10 AMT which is a 5 seater, +10hp extrahp, +7L extra bootspace and with 24kmpl mileage. Isn't it?

Did I ever say that? I made that reference because moment we start say something -ve about Celerio's 2 pot, they come in jump and say Nano 2 pot is yada, yada. I mean, why the hell are you put it even as an argument? It is almost half the price!

According to you.
-Only Maruti and maruti fans/owners are bad enough to make such bad products and to buy those bad products respectively. Isn't?

Yes and No. The entity to blame here is Maruti. Why? Because they cheat on trusted customer base, like YOU(Sorry if I am wrong)!

[*]Lets assume, for some reason those GOOD competitors also started following this trend.
-But still why are you worrying? Since other competitors FANS/OWNERS are intelligent enough not to go for a "cheap crappy products from maruti", then why do you expect them to buy those crappy products from the other brands?
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I never said other brands fans/owners are high-IQ. MSIL hold half of total customer base. And that is the reason I was saying MSIL need to be responsible, innovative and help customers, instead of taking their trust for ride. Aren't they? Don't you agree? There are myriads of crappy products from other brands, but not like this. A 2 pot engine priced close to 3/4 pot options.

Seems like you are an absolute Maruti Hater. (Sorry if I'm wrong.)

Dude, I already told you. I mentioned it already in my intro forums that, I had driven many cars but the one which I liked most was SX4, which is from MSIL. Does that mean I am a hater? If so, then be it. I own Alto and still use it regularly. So, no I am not against MS products in general.

And please for gods sake, if one criticizes a product, it is not hating that brand, rather hating the particular product. Why one would assume I hate MSIL w/o even know the cars in my garage or my favorite one! I like SX4, but I hate Celerio diesel. Do I made myself clear?

Dont have experience with the Ciaz mileage. How many kilometers did it run? Even after the initial period of usage if the highway mileage is no where closer to the claimed mileage then report it to the maruti and make them prove how to achieve this mileage in your car by testing the mileage by the Maruti authorised people in the presence of you.

Our Vento tdi gives around 12-13.5kmpl with AC in city driving condition(rarely 2 on board) in against to the arai claimed 20+kmpl, hope it will improve after 5-10k kms.
Where as our A-star gives about 14to16kmpl with AC in city driving condition with mostly 2-3 on board in against to the arai claimed 19+kmpl.
THe highest it gave till date is 23.7kmpl with morethan 80% of highway usage without AC and with 5 people on board.
But still A-star's initial days of mileage use to be around 13-15kmpl in city even without AC.

On a recent long trip of 782kms with our A-star(With 4 on board and with lots of luggage)it gave 17.2kmpl with AC. Travel time is approx 21-22hrs.
Atleast in the case of the maruti car that we own, we cant blame maruti for giving such a high FE claims.
When A-star was launched way back in 2008, I believe it was the only car(or one of the car) which had the highest claimed mileage in India.

Regards.,

Just because your A-Star gives you better FE, makes MSIL not guilty! Wow! And what's with comparing Vento & A-Star bro?

P.S : Guys, please understand. We are in no way want to bash MSIL. They had some good ones in the past, but as time pass by, they degrade themselves. What I don't understand is, "If I praise Alto K10 AMT, everyone is like, Yeah, maruti is great and go home! But if I blame Celerio, everyone bash me and drag me to road and beat me up?". So this is how rational guys think? Just don't get too emo with the brand. Learn to analyze, criticize and accept. You find a fault, you let them know. Don't suck up and live with it. This is what I believe and no matter what, I will go by this path.

 

[gaddambhargavareddy]

hey TAI i have small request can any one able to find TATA ACE Dicor TCIC engine sound vidoe please iam eagerly waiting to compare sound difference between TATA ACE 0.8L Dicor TCIC engine Vs Maruti Celerio 0.8L DDIS125 engine

 

[vijay_968]

I expressed my thoughts on Celerio's Deisel Avatar clearly in my Original Post (OP) at # 115. I'll quote (but chop a little) from AutoCarIndia report about the Engine performance:

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Now as expected, this two-cylinder diesel vibrates and makes a bit of noise when you start it up ... It’s not as silent as Hyundai’s Grand i10 and it isn’t as smooth either when revved, but all things considered, refinement levels are quite acceptable ... engine noise ... doesn’t get excessively gruff either.

Performance is less impressive ... If you adopt a relaxed driving style, the Celerio diesel will pull you along cheerfully and it is pretty good at that ... so driving at city speeds isn’t too much of a bother. Try to press on, however, and the Celerio diesel runs out of breath ... effective powerband is so narrow that power soon tails off ... expect a 0-100kph time somewhere in the region of 19 or 20 seconds, which isn’t too far from the Chevrolet Beat diesel (ME:- Beat Diesel does it in 18.4sec as per indian drives .com) ... the clutch is light ... expect enough performance to drive around in a relaxed manner, but not much beyond that.
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It has some merits and some drawbacks; which car doesn't ? IT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR REQUIREMENTS OF CERTAIN PEOPLE. In posts before my OP, I could see a little bit dragging here and there and that's the reason I went on to post my comments on Maruti Fans / Lovers. Too bad, I didn't describe “who is FAN” properly in my OP. Brand Fan / Lover is one who is a "blind supporter" of a brand rather than the product. Time to answer Kichu :-)

Bro, you were so high on blaming ALL M-fans or M-lovers.
Are you sure all m-lovers can be put into the same categoryike, they blame each and every other cars except the cars from maruti??? If you say yes; then it shows your immaturity.
Your words were not specific towards the PEOPLE who blame each and every other cars expect the cars from maruti. Moreover I believe there are such kinds of people from every other brand-fans too.
Instead, here it was an insult towards the WHOLE maruti lovers/fans.
Which means your bad sarcasm was even towards the good maruti fans/owners. How lame.
Have you thought how bad will they feel when they go through this thread and your post?
... Certain people must have blamed the linea and fiesta because of their 1.3 and 1.4L engine cars. And certain people must have brought ciaz out of these linea and fiesta.
But are you sure its the very SAME PEOPLE or the only people, who brought this car Ciaz after blaming Linea and Fiesta for their engines???

For such a long time, Maruti considered Power Steering / Windows a luxury not suited for common Indian. Indian customers were exposed to Supermini cars like Fiat Palio in 1999, Hyundai Getz in 2002 & Opel Corsa Sail in 2003. Seeing the growing market, the leader introduced Swift in 2004 full FIVE years after my FIAT did that. Koreans introduced powerful 52bHP and 55bHP Engines in 1998 (IIRC) and immediately Maruti improved M-800 engine from 37 to 45bHP. The 5 gears in Maruti cars are thanks to Koreans launching same earlier. Wagon-R is due to Santro. The new Alto and Celerio designs remind me of Hyundai cars and till date Swift Vxi is NOT available with ABS. Even features and designs in Maruti Cars are copied from competitors. If “Koreans et al” had not entered Indian Auto sector, we would still be driving M-800, Zen and Esteem. This proves that the leader was NOT WILLING to give GOOD STUFF to COMMON INDIAN and its own LOYAL CUSTOMERS. these behaviours befit a leader ? In spite of all these, ONLY Maruti has a Huge Fan following. Owners of Hyundai, Mahindra, Honda, Toyota, TATA, German/European/American brands can be expected to be frank in criticising faults in their cars. While Maruti FANS pretend there's nothing wrong in their cars and brand. Why ABS is not even an Option in both Swift and Dzire VXi versions ?No surprise I hate Maruti. AND Yes, I AM sooooo high on blaming ALL Maruti FAN-BOYS.

Yes, ALL Maruti FAN-BOYS can be put into the same category, in their blind support for Maruti and refusal to see what good stuff Maruti is NOT giving them but is available from other brands. The regular Maruti car owner is different. A Maruti Fan will definitely call me immature. I am not born to be accepted by everyone.

I AM extremely specific about Fan-Boys. And Yes, there are such kinds of fanboyism with every other brand too; I see it very minimal.

YOU used the word insult; not I. A perfectly normal Maruti owner does NOT need to feel insulted. A Fan-boy in the typical faulty Mould would feel so. I never make fun of a normal car owner unless otherwise pre-empted. When it comes from a Maruti Fan, I declare 7NT and claim all tricks after the first lead.

Good Maruti fans/owners ? There are lot of Good Maruti car owners who like their cars, drive sensibly, are PLEASED to own it, who never multiply their FE by a factor of 1.3, who never divide their travel time by a factor of 1.5, admit the missing features and talk about issues in their cars. Fan-boys don't do so. AND, there's no good Fan-Boys.

How bad will they feel ? My comment was written to encourage Maruti owners to be frank and NOT to sugar coat in TAI. And admire the goodies offered by competing car brands and become a true ENTHUSIAST from being just a Maruti owner. If TRUTH hurts, what can I do ?

I wrote, "Many who heckled Linea for having just 1300cc engine and Fiesta for that 1400cc are now proud owners of Ciaz Diesel". Meaning is clear I thought. It doesn't mean ALL those heckled Linea bought Ciaz nor all those who bought Ciaz once heckled Linea. Why do you need to push your thoughts into my sentence ? When there's nothing worth to fight with, use anything ?? That's what I call Fanboyism.

Price: The permanent market leader was selling M-800 at more than standard profit rates (discussed in Parliament around 1998); OTHER manufacturers aligned their prices accordingly and Indian Customers were/are paying more. When a manufacturer priced less, Maruti followed suit. If Fanboys stop their continued BLIND support for Maruti, Maruti owners will benefit on many fronts. That's what I and FD try to convey. This Diesel Celerio has a high potential in a market like India. Other brands will come up with something similar and better, ultimately benefiting Indian Customer. So my request is put forward the points Maruti needs to hear LOUD and CLEAR so that Celerio and other Maruti car owners get the benefits earlier than to wait 2-3 years for the face lift. It is our duty being a TAI member.

On a recent long trip of 782kms with our A-star(With 4 on board and with lots of luggage)it gave 17.2kmpl with AC. Travel time is approx 21-22hrs.
Atleast in the case of the maruti car that we own, we cant blame maruti for giving such a high FE claims.
When A-star was launched way back in 2008, I believe it was the only car(or one of the car) which had the highest claimed mileage in India.

With 126 horses, my Verna doesn't bother whether AC is ON/OFF or car is loaded are not. Yet, if driven properly, it gives some funny figures like 25.6 kpl over 290 km (http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/ownership-reviews/12620-hyundai-fluidic-verna-1-6-crdi-ex-30-000-kms-update-3.html#post433939). Same post 17.9 kpl over 126 km is also mentioned. A tiny visit to Pizza hut, it was Bye Bye to Rs.500. Whatever FE benefit I got was gone in a jiffy. Hence, I normally don't talk much about FE . Nevertheless, I record it for the sake of non-believers. Life is like that.

 

[furious_driver]

@vijay_968

You have explained everything. And it is crystal clear and on the dot. People still doesn't understand difference between criticizing and bashing! As much as I love SX4, I hate Celerio. But no one look into this point, rather they will go on talk about us, like we are some Maruti haters!

 

[Akash1886]

@Kichu

How convenient it is for you to quote part of reply where I bash MSIL, but instead left out the important bits!

Yes. Just read this completely before coming to conclusion.

Just see the way you talk.
It was so easy for you to say "Maruti cheats" their trusted costumers with their fake mileage claim. But when its about hyundai, you hesitate to say "hyundai cheated their trusted customers" and instead you said
Hyundai faced some charges for "quoting wrong FE." How Sweet :D

See your attitude.

Kiran and FD, Buddies, let's concentrate on merits and de-merits of the car. Pointing the de-merits of a car should be done in a way that no owner is offended. No car is perfect, however, when we discuss/share our opinions on a public platform then the expressions by us are read by 1000's of enthusiasts and info seekers. Expressions which border to personal remarks should be kept aside as they deviate from actual sense of discussion. I do understand both of you are immensely matured and have insightful views with regards to the car in discussion and even otherwise. Hence, let keep it to that and continue to discuss it in a manner that benefits all.

Regards

Akash

 

[maximas007]

Very heated conversation but helpful except some words which are unparliamentary rest is OK .
Thank you guys .
The first car considered for my sister with AMT was celerio we narrowed it and nearly finalized until we TD Zest and GRAND I10
Celerio was more than OK for me but the absence of ABS and airbag let us down.

Coming to the point I wish and hope this 2 cylinder thing fail in India! it is just my wish .

 

[allhyundaicars]

I was reading the above conversation and only waited for it to cool down a bit.

So celerio diesel has 27.xx kmpl and the desire has 26.xx kmpl. So do you really think a company which can tune a 1.3 four cylinder engine with a heavy body that gives 26.xx kmpl can't develop a 3 cylinder engine and have similar values ?

I say this is BS. it's just a cost cutting measure and nothing else. Again as many said above they are milking money just by claiming the best fe figures and as maximas said i wish this fails an indians should know when they are being provided with shitty products and when they are provided according to their needs.

 

[gaddambhargavareddy]

I was reading the above conversation and only waited for it to cool down a bit.

So celerio diesel has 27.xx kmpl and the desire has 26.xx kmpl. So do you really think a company which can tune a 1.3 four cylinder engine with a heavy body that gives 26.xx kmpl can't develop a 3 cylinder engine and have similar values ?

I say this is BS. it's just a cost cutting measure and nothing else. Again as many said above they are milking money just by claiming the best fe figures and as maximas said i wish this fails an indians should know when they are being provided with shitty products and when they are provided according to their needs.

all those mileage figures are test results automotive research center but in real word non of any gives that figures in real world traffic conditions swift and ciaz managed to give 14-16kmpl in city 20-22kmpl on highway thats maximum. So dont goo blindly on Test results of company

 

[Kichu]

Extremely sorry to every members and readers for being a part to ruin this thread, especially since this product is just launched and these are the time where some healthy good discussions and ones personal views etc etc about this product should have taken place.

I hope, everybody will be back in action without keeping anything in mind

 

[allhyundaicars]

all those mileage figures are test results automotive research center but in real word non of any gives that figures in real world traffic conditions swift and ciaz managed to give 14-16kmpl in city 20-22kmpl on highway thats maximum. So dont goo blindly on Test results of company

People loves those fe figures and yeah the real mileage is nowhere close and that's why maruti takes advantage.

 

[Kichu]

After reading lots of post related to the fake mileage claims of maruti, here are my doubts.

Isn't ARAI mileage tests conditions are same for every other brands?
If the answer is yes, then other branded cars should also have this issue of mileage isn't it?

Or is it just the Maruti who does some malpractices with the ARAI mileage tests results?
Again if the answer is yes, then how its possible for them to do so?

Does anybody have some concrete answer to this?

 

[Akash1886]

Buddies,

There is a difference of at least 10 to 20% in the actual FE of a car and that claimed by OEM. The ARAI FE is based on "ideal conditions" i.e Density of Traffic, Average Speed, Right meshing of gears, pattern of driving, condition of roads. All the said parameters in reality as rightly said do not exist in reality. However, it is actually to be understood that there has to be a certain basic figure which has to be taken as standard by OEM. As we see the test mules of various being tested prior to launch, so, in those road tests the test mules also provide a certain figure of FE. Now once the car is to be put in production, prior to that, the test mule's road test FE figures in all probability is provided to ARAI after which the clearance for it is issued. Once the unit of the car is produced with the passed spec of engine, it is again tested at ARAI. Now, with the average FE of test mule i.e pre-production FE figure, and post-production FE figure, a figure for expected FE is allocated as the base value which is the benchmark. Now, how is this base value for FE (post production) is calculated, it is done in the same way like we users do i.e Tankful Fuel Method. So once, with the tankful the produced car is driven on Highway and then in CITY. The FE figures of that Highway and CITY are the ones which is mentioned in brochures and informed to dealers after being co-related with the pre-production figures. The reason why both pre and post production FE figures are compared is because, Test Mules give an insight to the brand as what sort of R and D needs to be carried out to make the car more fuel efficient as per the designated segment norm. So, accordingly, taking the cue from test mule's FE figure, the OEM works towards a better/efficient FE for the production car so that it is readily and positively accepted in the target audience and the designated market at large.

Regards

Akash

 

[generalmax]

To be truthful,there are some under currents in the industry, which customers are not aware of.
I was loyal to Maruti for the past 10 years with my Alto,Wagon R and my Ritz.So,I went back to Maruti for a new car which is cheap to maintain. Is it a mistake or curse? As Kichcu was saying I could have gone for a better car, which was not possible because of my loan conditions. But does that mean that I can't ask for better product from Maruti. I am not of a TATA fan either, but is it wrong to wonder how good a car Nano is just as a package? I had looked for cars from Ford and Volkswagen, both the dealers told me ,the base variant (cheapest) vehicle not in stock. These variants where coming with ABS and Airbags and just 50K more than Celerio VXi. Waiting period for these cars were given as 3 months or more. Other dealers started pushing variants that are costly because of Bluetooth,Music system,Magwheels etc.Coming back to Maruti,I asked for Celerio Vxi with only ABS ,it was not in production. Asked for Wagon Vxi with ABS answer was wait for 3 months. RitZ Vxi with ABS ,answer was not in production. I can’t buy a swift as one swift was already there in the family.
Anyway I bought Celerio VXi, and came to understand that Maruti was clearly fooling people with this model.I have a Celerio VXi -MT variant which comes close to 5.2 lac on road in Bangalore. Engine 1 L (Alto ).No ABS/EBD ,No Stereo,No fog lamps,No de mistifier, No rear wiper . Looks very similar to A star.But handling of A star is very good compared to Celerio. In Celereo Zxi also there is was no ABS or EBD. Its only available with ZXi (o) where you get an Airbag also.Why ?I started doing some research.
The plot thickens when you compare it to 1.2 L Ritz.
Add 1.2 Lac to Celerio VXi you will get Ritz Zxi with ,ABS,Airbags,bigger engine and alloy wheels too. That is a big difference for a 1 lac variation. Now with Celerio Diesel compare it with Ritz Diesel .Surprisingly Ritz Diesel model is not so costly. Ritz Zdi is on road 7.35 after discount (Bangalore).
The truth is Celerio (petro) is a heavily overpriced car which Maruti wants to keep it that way so that they can make money later. They could have removed 2 decade old Wagon R and reduce the price of Celerio to slot it in to that place. These facts one will understand when you look in to the pricing system of Maruti.They still want to sell Alto 800,Alto K10 and Clerio,all in the same basket,to increase profit. Without seeing any of these ,an unsuspecting customer can be fooled to buy these small cars, instead of buying a better,safer car.
I am not saying only maruti is fooling people. Every other manufacturer also does. But as a player in the field for long maruti got its upper hand and others just supports them.
No offence to anyone. Just my thoughts ,may be due to frustration of owning a Celerio.

 

[vijay_968]

... Celerio was more than OK for me but the absence of ABS and airbag let us down. Coming to the point I wish and hope this 2 cylinder thing fail in India! it is just my wish .

... i wish this fails ...

LOL. Guys,I understand what you really mean by that. At first, I also felt Maruti is doing its usual milking of Customers. But, the more I thought about it, I feel this tiny pot has to suceed for the two major reasons given below:

Reason 1 - ABS and Less Waiting Period for Swift: Out of all the features, ABS in ZDi (Opt) of Celerio stand out. Look at these Ex-showroom (Delhi) prices taken from Carwale now:
Swift VXi @ 5.32 L
Celerio ZDi (Opt) @ 5.71 L
With its Diesel Engine and ABS, Celerio might tempt those who are looking at Petrol Swift / Ritz for normal City duty. IF that trend is seen by Maruti, they might introduce ABS in Swift . With its regular presence on Indian Highways, Swift badly needs ABS. There's also a chance that the waiting period for Swift might come down. Good news for those who have Swift in target.

Reason 2 - Benefit to all: Indian Car Buyers WILL accept a weak 2 Cylinder from Maruti, and the market for small diesel engine segment started by Beat Diesel (IIRC) will be revived. Good for so many potential buyers and Car manufacturers. Like I said earlier, Indian Buyers are so much biased towards Maruti that we needed Swift to kindle interest on Supermini Cars in India while earlier Indian Pioneers like Palio / Corsa Sail / Fusion waited in show rooms.


@Kichu and @furious_driver : Truce at last . Me smiling guys. Let's look at the time of Posts.
Mine # 124) was at 12:56 AM / FD's # 125 was at 01:40 AM / Kichu's # 126 was at 02:13 AM / FD's # 127 was at 02:40 AM. I thought I was crazy when I composed mine. BUT, You two guys ... . Lets make sure our families do NOT see these timings.


@Kichu Just a few answers to your post at # 129.
Everyone is there to make a Profit. Some do it to make the Customer Satisfied, some do it to make Customer Happy, Some do it for Customer's Delight and Some do it to make the Customer feel like a King. When Maruti IS still concentrating on Satisfied Customer, few other Brands concentrate on "Delight / King" words.
About the "Standard Profit" thingy: Even a PSU is expected to make Profit with standard upper limit for Profit Margin. This Margin is auditable and questionable.
About Koreans and other International Brands doing Bad things: Mistakes happen everywhere due to some judge mental error. See what's happening in the Maggi episode. How Nestle responds will let us know what type of Management is up there. When most International Brands are ready to recall their vehicles to rectify some defects, Maruti had refrained from doing that for the fear of loosing brand image except the latest March / May 2015 recalls.
About FE: You said "majority of the people ... are highly conscious about spending their money". These very same people spend money lavishly also. Don't believe me ? Lend Rs. 30,000/- to a middle class person you know and see what happens. He and his family will continue their normal routine of regular dinning out, shopping, costly cosmetics (than what you use), gifts to maintain social status etc, but won't return money on the agreed date. I think point is made.

@Kichu Answer to your post at # 138.
We use big Gensets in our office and these are also certified by ARAI for FE (in liters per hour). The Gensets are tested for certain load factors in ARAI by the manufacturer. We never get the same FE figures with same loads in factory. Mind you there's no traffic snarls or driver behavior to affect the FE measured at ARAI. It's just power ON and forget the genset for so many hours. I'm handling the case of a > 90kVA Genset now. Is it concrete enough for you ? You infer whatever you want to infer.