Re: Tata Aria Comprehensive Road Test Review
whenever it come to Tata vehicles you always talk negative about Tata products, what others say, you talk on behalf of other Tata Owners, isn't it important to listen to what the actual owners say?
Well, I am an ex-TATA owner. We had 2 safaris, one sumo Victa & one Indica V2. Except Victa, all others were sold due to recurring issues. What do you want me to think about TATA then?
Regarding new gen TATA products, my close knit family has a vista & Aria. Aria is not giving any issues as such, but Vista, as already mentioned, is a pain to own.
How the product becomes bad if the A.S.S is bad? Isn't the service and Product two different things?
Of course. Bad A.S.S. mean poor ownership experience.
You know the difference between Mahindra & TATA IMO? Both have below par A.S.S. but Mahindra being more reliable, visits to service centre is only for usual services, which means lesser headache.
What is the reason Toyota is selling 3000 Etios and 3000 Liva a month?
As i said earlier, because of the "T" badge!
Do you own Mahindra product? Then how can you so confidently say that?
Please look at my earlier ownership reports. The Mahindra vehicles I have/had -
1) 2 Nos. Bolero Di - 2005 - approx 1.5 lacs driven
2) Scorpio non-CRDe first gen - 2003 - 2 lacs driven
3) Scorpio CRDe - 2005 - approx 2 lacs driven (sold)
4) Scorpio mHawk - 2008 - 50000 driven (sold)
What extaly do you mean by unreliable product? Does the Tata vehicles fall apart in the middle of road?
Yes. I have seen many indicas & indigos in the middle of the road with bonnets open. I guess they are not worshipping the engine in the middle of the road.
Yes, never seen a Manza though.
Till today Tata is the no.1 in commercial vehicle such as Trucks, Buses, Mini trucks- aren't they reliable? ( I am just quoting this for Tata Reliability no need to compare Trucks , buses with cars) If Tata can Manufacture reliable Buses/ Trucks for almost generation now.
I am a bus operator. Ask me!
TATA trucks/buses sell, NOT because they are reliable. They sell because they are cheap. We have bought 4 buses, all of them are Ashok Leylands, you can have a look at the ownership reports.
TATA is cheaper to buy & maintain because quality of parts is equally worse. But people like us who ply their buses on long routes never opt for TATA buses or trucks because even though profit is important, the bus should not stall in the middle of a forest at 2 pm with 50 passengers!
talk to some insiders (truckers or bus operators) & you will get similar reviews.
yes, you will find lots of TATA trucks in cities as it is said that initial acceleration of TATA is better than AL. Also, servicing or repairing within cities is easier, so they look for the cheapest alternative (AL parts costs a bomb!)
Are they stupid to produce unreliable cras? Indica, Indigo are used by so many cab operators are they fools to put their money in unreliable products?
Same logic. Which other diesel car/sedan can be purchased for dirt cheap? cab owners buy cars, use it for 3 years & sell them off, unlike private car buyers.
So according you which the perfect car?
There is no perfect car!
And again you are talking about Mahindra? what is your own experience about Mahindra?
Experience of owning & driving 5 different mahindra for 8 years.
See buddy, I dont intend to hurt your sentiments as I just now noticed you own a Vista. But these are just my personal opinions & need NOT be true or right for everyone. just like you are sharing your experiences, I am sharing mine.
Sorry Xover!
I agree the discussion went , but it was needed. One just can not blame Tata all the time.!Being proud owner of Tata its my responsibility to justify!
Actually, you dont need to justify buddy. to each his own, isnt it?
Tomorrow, if you say Punto is crap. I MAY ask you why you feel so, but at the end of the day, its your wish about what you wanna feel!
And Raj,
You think that Vista drivetech 4 is a Manza without boot and therefor all problems if any with Vista d4 will be there in Manza.
Nopes. Thats why I am repeatedly saying that I have not experienced anything with Manza.
And that Vista is modified Indica V2 and V2 is old Indica in new name. So Manza is last decade's Indica. Wow!!!
Where & when did i say that? Please quote.