Finally! Honda Plans Diesel Engine to Beat the Competition


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Re: Honda in diesel drive: Brio, City, SUV coming

well that's a great piece of news.

If Honda comes up with diesel engine well then there's a whole lot of competition coming for other manufacturers in the market.

City, Civic, Accord and CRV(2012)..Would be really wonderful to see that.
 
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Re: Honda in diesel drive: Brio, City, SUV coming

Great news for Honda lovers. Many would agree that Honda have got some of the best lookers in all segments, just that the lack of a diesel heart has pushed them back. As of now there is a considerable difference between petrol and diesel. But have to see, when the models actually roll out and what the price difference between petrol and diesel would be at that point of time.
 
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They might be late , but it is not yet game over for them. Poeple will just blindly buy their diesel cars as well going behind the brand name of HONDA. So as per my personal thinking they have good market here waiting to try out something new.
 
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Awaiting for diesel accord. Still unable to find any car which can replace accord in sub-20-22L bracket.
 
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Honda to set up diesel engine plant at rajasthan

Honda India is betting big on turbo diesel power and the automaker is all set to set up a diesel engine plant at Tapukara, Rajasthan. This diesel engine plant will come up at the same facility which Honda has set up to manufacture cars, as a part of its expansion plans in India. The first Honda car model to get the small capacity, turbo diesel engine could be the Brio based compact sedan. Going forward, Honda plans to introduce diesel engines on a range of cars like the Brio hatchback, the City sedan and the Jazz hatchback. All three cars are currently available only in petrol engine guises.

Interestingly, Honda has stated that only its new car models will get the turbo diesel engines. This means that we might have to wait until the all new versions of the likes of the Jazz and the City sedan arrive onto the market, for diesel engined versions of the same to be sold in India. The all new Jazz hatchback will arrive in 2013 while the all new City sedan is a due for a launch a year later in 2014. The Brio hatchback however could get a diesel engine sooner than the rest of the car models given that test mules of the Brio with a diesel engine under the hood have been spotted numerous times in the past few months.

Also, this strategy from Honda makes a lot of sense as cars are usually designed to run on a specific type of engine, in this case petrol ones. So, the Jazz and the City sedan, in their current forms might not be able to support diesel engines, and this is perhaps why Honda is waiting for the next generation versions of the Jazz hatchback and the City sedan. On the other hand, the Brio was designed and developed at a time when the Indian market had already moved towards diesel power in an overwhelming manner. So, a diesel engined Brio seems more likely, under its existing platform, which is much newer than the City or the Jazz.

Honda’s turbo diesel engines will revolve around high fuel economy, high torque and low tail pipe carbon emissions. This is what Honda’s latest turbo diesel engine, the 1.6 Liter i-DTEC unit based on the EarthDreams technology offers, with a class leading torque figure of 300 Nm and low tailpipe emissions. So, expect all the new turbo diesel engines from Honda to confirm to these attributes given that the new range of small capacity diesel engines are aimed at the high volume small car market, where fuel economy is valued very highly amongst buyers.

Honda Cars India bets big on turbo diesel power; To set up diesel engine plant at Rajasthan | IndianCarsBikes.in
 
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The company will not introduce diesel engines in any of the existing cars like City, Jazz or Brio, but would add them to the new line of cars expected to come by end of next fiscal year.
This move responding to the market needs.Honda should also need to concentrate on City and Jazz sooner than later for dieselasation.
City and Jazz are good models to gain market share and diesel mills would increase their monthly count of cars sold.

Lets wait for next year to see some exciting news from Honda's stance.


Honda Motor Company to launch first diesel car in India by 2014 - The Economic Times
 
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Eight new models from Honda in three years

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An all-new 1.5 diesel engine will underpin Honda’s new model expansion in the Indian market which will kick off in mid-2013 with the launch of a new, sub-four-metre long Brio-based saloon. The Honda saloon will officially be unveiled later this month and will be aimed directly at the Swift Dzire which is the undisputed leader in the mid-size category.

The all-aluminium 1.5 Honda diesel motor, which is derived from the 1.6 diesel recently launched in Europe, will be the lightest and most fuel efficient diesel in its class according to Honda. This new diesel engine family has been developed by ex-Formula 1 engineers after Honda exited the sport at the end of 2008, according to company sources. The power output of the engine is unknown as yet, but we expect the Brio-based saloon to have an output of around 80bhp, with a more powerful version with an excess of 100bhp to power future models.

The diesel version of the Brio hatchback should logically follow the saloon, but its launch has been delayed indefinitely because Honda is struggling to price it competitively in the market. However, with increased localisation of the Brio and the 1.5 diesel in India, costs could come down to allow Honda to sell the Brio diesel profitably.

In fact, Honda is planning to heavily localise the diesel engine to keep costs in check and it’s likely that this motor will be exported to other markets.

The big surprise could be the early launch of the next generation City, which is likely to pip the Brio diesel to the Indian market. Honda’s future bread-and-butter saloon could come as early as December 2013 or for a 2014 Auto Expo debut. The next generation City will be powered by Honda’s latest petrol and diesel motors, and this could help it reclaim its crown as the best selling mid-size saloon in the Indian market.

The next generation Jazz is expected in 2014 and this time round, Honda will localise it heavily from the word go to ensure that it is competitively priced at launch. The current Jazz, though a highly capable car, flopped initially because of its high price. Honda doesn’t want to make the same mistake again. Once more, the Jazz is expected with a 1.2 petrol and the new 1.5 diesel.

Honda is also developing a Brio-based MPV with three rows of seats to take on the Ertiga. Honda sources say that engineers have been tasked to make it considerably more spacious than the Maruti MPV, especially in the third row. Honda’s all-new MPV is expected at the end of 2014 and should come with a 1.5 petrol and diesel.

Honda has officially confirmed plans for a compact SUV expected in 2015. This grounds-up SUV will be spun off the next gen City’s platform and could have a seven-seat configuration too. Honda sources say that it is likely to be more of a crossover with a focus on driving dynamics and fuel efficiency rather than off-road capability.

At the top of Honda’s range is the next generation CR-V, which is being readied for a January 2013 launch as can be seen by the first set of spy pics on our website. The CR-V will not come with a diesel yet and neither will the next generation Accord, which is expected in late 2013.

Honda has finally woken up to the importance of the Indian market with an aggressive and ambitious strategy not seen since the company set up operations in 1996. Honda’s new model offensive is likely to boost the company’s flagging sales in India, especially since the company will have that one essential ingredient critical for success in the Indian market – a capable diesel engine.

SOURCE Eight new models from Honda in three years | News | Autocar India
 
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Honda to set up Diesel Engine plant in Rajasthan

Honda Car India, the wholly-owned subsidiary of Honda Motor Co. of Japan will set up a greenfield diesel engine factory at its second industrial location in Rajasthan that have largely remained unutilised over the past five years.

The Indian subsidiary will debut Honda's first global compact car in diesel in 2013 fired by the locally-manufactured engines.

This sub-four metre sedan, Amaze, based on its Brio hatchback model - Honda's strategic model for Asia - would have a 1.5-litre i-DTEC diesel based on its 'Earth Dreams' diesel technology.

Honda Car's senior V-P (sales & marketing) Jnaneswar Sen confirmed the corporate plans for a new diesel engine plant exclusively for the Indian market.

"We plan to launch the diesel car at a very aggressive price that would require high level of localisation in the Indian market. We have finalised plans to set up a diesel engine plant at Tapukara in Rajasthan by next year but the finer details regarding capacity and investments are yet to be worked out," he said.

The company would start assembling a 1.5-litre diesel engine by early next year that would initially debut in the Amaze sedan which would compete with Maruti topseller Dzire & Tata Motors' Indigo.

The same engines would also come in Honda's other cars like the new Jazz and the new City sedan that would roll out some time in 2014 for the Indian market.

"The diesel engine would not power any of the existing compact cars like the current models of Brio, Jazz and the City sedan. We will have this diesel technology reserved only for the new cars that would be introduced over the next 2-3 years," Sen added.

According to three different component manufacturers, Honda plans to introduce Amaze in the price range of 5-8 lakh by increasing cost competitiveness through local sourcing and production. "We have been working with Honda to develop components for its new diesel engine.

The component supplies for making these engines would resume early next year as the car (Amaze) is expected to debut in mid-2013," said a Delhi-based auto component maker.

According to company sources, Honda would also supply some of the engine components from the Rajasthan plant to its UK subsidiary. It already makes higher configuration diesel engines in the UK, which are strapped to its popular cars like the Accord and the CR-V sporty utility vehicle.

However, the diesel engine would not be fitted in Accord and CR-V models in India. Amaze, the entry-level sedan, would also be rolled out in a 1.2-litre petrol engine that currently powers its Jazz and the Brio hatchback.

Honda Car India to set up greenfield diesel engine factory in Rajasthan - The Economic Times
 

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Had a look at the overdrive video shoot of amaze diesel, best in class drivebility from this new idtec engine from honda, best low end torque to make it enjoyable, superbly space utilization which many would be surprised to see the rear bench offering compared to Brio in its sedan avatar, with good interiors good builtup and lighter aluminium engine for lighter weight and FE.
 

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