Originally Posted by bharathbigb
My home town is PKD mr.releesh and yeah it is really difficult to see Apaches.It is true that Apache RTR 180 is doing good and the RTR 160 Struggles to beat Hunk,Pulsar 150.The Engine is from Old Feiro which is Reworked and Fine tuned for Apache.It actually bought massive Improvement. The CC is same for the RTR 160 and the RTR 180 is the same engine but Overbored with bigger Carbs.Yes they did NOT promote the RTR 180 ABS
in Safety,They just were intrested with performance.I did check the Sales figure of Apache from the dealer i told and he says sales are very dull.I read everywhere about the RTR Facelift and everyone commented 'It is looking Ugly','It is a Failure' etc.Even I asked people outside and they too said the same.I have sat in the V1 Apache RTR 160 and wasn't that comfy.You are sure to get back-pain after a 100 KM Ride.I dunno about the Reworked Seats.I will surely give it a try.The TVS XL,Star city,Phoenix sells like Rs.10 Hot Cake.Apache is only Struggling now.Thank you
I was thinking you were geting the sales statitics from somewhere like we see in our monthly car sales thread and i really want to see that. I love to see a response from 350Z
I am neither against TVS or a particular company nor a fan. Though i ride old Apache,apache RTR 160 & 180 i like the old fiero most. In my college days CBZ(old model) & Fiero was the only options and pulsar came later and it really a breed a part. When comparing the performance pulsar was the top and Fiero next.
But the girls in our college at that time loved the CBz rear seats and scared the pulsar and Fiero is just another bike for them.
My close frinds owned these 3 bikes and that 2001 model CBZ is still with my friend in a bad condition though.I still remember the day my friend came with the new Tvs fiero and the numerous Munnar trips we done on that.It was the bike which given the 2stroke like performance and it easily reach 40km/hr in 1st gear and climb most of the hairpins in 4th gear itself.Only problem was braking and it has same shogun/shavolin characterstics in braking. Though tire stopped,bike will not stop.
We were like cried when our fiero owner friend's father given him B'day present. What he done was he exchanged the fiero and bought a brand new Thunderbird for the son as a present without telling him. We were calling the Tb as tracter and that was one of the costliest bike at that time.
I had an experiance of covering almost 1500kms in less than 3 days in a TVS victor in 2004.
Why i telling all these because the first model Apache is a worst one and not comparable with Fiero.My gladiator which i owned at that time was way better than apache in mIlage and performance. Apache never bought massive Improvement from fiero like you said. actually we were expexting a Fiero 180 from TVS which they had used for TVS racing team at that time. I didnt understand how come RTR 160 has a same CC of Fiero or Old Apache?
the current bike i using (Gs 150R) is also based on the old fiero engine i guess and Still i can tell the old Fiero was better in performance and milage than my GS 150R.
May be these star city, phonix & XL selling in hot cakes in TN but that is not the case in all other states in India.