What Would You Pefer: Mercedes or Ambassador with Red Beacon?


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What would you prefer, being on backseat of a Mercedes or any equivalent luxury car, or backseat of Ambassador with red-beacon?

Avoid saying both.
 
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Re: What would you prefer: Mercedes or Ambassador with red-beacon?

What would you prefer, being on backseat of a Mercedes or any equivalent luxury car, or backseat of Ambassador with red-beacon?
Voted for Ambassador with red beacon. Reason is simple- Power.
 
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I voted for Mercedes coz it is these Merc guys who have Amby chaps with red beacon in their pocket. [:D]

For world, amby maybe powerful, in reality amby guys water plants at Merc's house. [:)]
Best thing is to get into Rajya Sabha & put read beacon on Merc !! [lol]

BTW, I prefer an escort with beacon than beacon on car itself.
 
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Amby ..power , what power does that puny isuzu engine have ,70 bhp ?
even taxi drivers do not consider it
In the name of power dont sell your soul, a red beacon is servant of a public not vice versa!
 

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Re: What would you prefer: Mercedes or Ambassador with red-beacon?

IF this thread would ahve been made two years back,then I'd have definitely voted for Merc but after being in politics and business both,after expereincing both,I have voted for RED beacon fitted Amby.

I voted for Mercedes coz it is these Merc guys who have Amby chaps with red beacon in their pocket.
Not your fault,I too used to think the same some six months back.But you know what,no one ,simply no one is more powerful than a govt. official in India.

For world, amby maybe powerful, in reality amby guys water plants at Merc's house.
I guess either you are a Merc owner or you are having a beacon fitted Amby..my darling this is the biggest misconseption people have.

Best thing is to get into Rajya Sabha & put read beacon on Merc !! [lol]
And what about your sasurji who is in excise department?Also about those TV channels and all?
Else what do you think, a politician who travels in a Santro can't buy a Bentley each month?

Amby ..power , what power does that puny isuzu engine have ,70 bhp ?
even taxi drivers do not consider it
That's the best one I have ever heard.But issue is that one 70 BHP car has the power to make a 700 BHP one to stop and give way to it!!
 
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I voted for Mercedes coz it is these Merc guys who have Amby chaps with red beacon in their pocket. [:D]
For world, amby maybe powerful, in reality amby guys water plants at Merc's house. [:)]
What?? That's not true barring a few exceptional cases.
To keep amby guys in your pocket, you really need to be in the leagues of Ambanis and Tatas, which is rare in India. Many business tycoons own luxurious cars but beg these amby travelers for land clearances,tax exemptions, environmental clearances etc. So, without a doubt, it power that wins over money.

@TSivipul- I agree to most of your points.

BUT, Why do we take 'Power' in a negative connotation? Power is also there for benefit of common man, like Jayadev said- service of the people.
 
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Re: What would you prefer: Mercedes or Ambassador with red-beacon?

IF this thread would ahve been made two years back,then I'd have definitely voted for Merc but after being in politics and business both,after expereincing both,I have voted for RED beacon fitted Amby.
I was expecting such a reply from you. [;)]

Not your fault,I too used to think the same some six months back.But you know what,no one ,simply no one is more powerful than a govt. official in India.
What about politicians?
I feel the 'power chart' is in a loop. Media > Politicians > Govt. Officials > Media > Politicians...
I may have missed something, but you got the idea :P

And what about your sasurji who is in excise department?Also about those TV channels and all?
Else what do you think, a politician who travels in a Santro can't buy a Bentley each month?
[thumbswink]
Most people think people in govt. can eat as much money as they want.
 

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Re: What would you prefer: Mercedes or Ambassador with red-beacon?

What?? That's not true barring a few exceptional cases.
To keep amby guys in your pocket, you really need to be in the leagues of Ambanis and Tatas, which is rare in India. Many business tycoons own luxurious cars but beg these amby travelers for land clearances,tax exemptions, environmental clearances etc. So, without a doubt, it power that wins over money.
Guys have you heard a word 'Honest Govt. official'?If yes,then let me tell you people that an honest govt. official can make even a Bentley owner beg him for just a small work or two.
It's the corruption which has made these people lick the feet of the high power bearers.

A small incident:Leave aside laal batti type people,I am talking of a sub inspector only.
About two years back my first challan was cut in my city(I was on my 200).It was an overspeed and driving without license challan and fine was only Rs 800.
I was doing about 90 kph on a road when I was stopped.After getting stopped,I haven't shown the papers of bike,instead I called my father but the call wasn't received.So I directly called up the SSP and made him talk to sb inspector.The sub inspector talked to SSP for 5-6 seconds and said "Sir I am cutting a challan of over speeding and drivign without license".He cut the phone and gave it back to me and I was looking at him with an open mouth.
My guys,if power is in honest hands then money can never win over it.Maximum what can be done with an honest official is transfer..none else!!

BUT, Why do we take 'Power' in a negative connotation? Power is also there for benefit of common man, like Jayadev said- service of the people.
Power is there for the benefit of common man,but issue is that even our common people also think that they can buy any power for some cash and hence at the end...the officials are forced to use power on the common man,just to stop them from going any wrong way.


What about politicians?
My buddy,there is a protocol.
Take for an instance,an MP is above a DM in protocol but still can't force the DM to do anything.
An MLA or MLC is below a DM in terms of protocol and in case DM gives them an order then MLA or MLC is bounded to follow it.
IPS officers have even more power in these terms,the written order of an IPS officer can't be denied as it directly relates to law and order.
But there are boundations of officers too and the true power of politicians is their identity in party and support of masses.
In other words,you can't say who is more powerful..official is more powerful in some cases and politician is in some other cases.

I feel the 'power chart' is in a loop. Media > Politicians > Govt. Officials > Media > Politicians...
I may have missed something, but you got the idea :P
Above all is the court of law.What court has said is meant to be followed by anyone and everyone.In my views the power chart is like..
Court>Union ministers/Cabinet ministers,state govt. ministers who hold any specific department>A class offcials(IAS/IPS/IFS etc)>MLAs/MLCs>State Govt. officials>Smaller level politicians>Press.

I named press at the end as press can't do anything if you are smart enough.

Most people think people in govt. can eat as much money as they want.
This is a very big misconception.No one can do over-feeding,it's easily caught.
You can see various such examples of Congress govt. now a days..
 
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Re: What would you prefer: Mercedes or Ambassador with red-beacon?

Guys have you heard a word 'Honest Govt. official'?If yes,then let me tell you people that an honest govt. official can make even a Bentley owner beg him for just a small work or two......if you are smart enough.


This is a very big misconception.No one can do over-feeding,it's easily caught.
That's what I said.

If anyone, in any poll, on any forum selects 'other', please post what that 'other' is. Dharmesh sir, if you read this again please post.
 
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^^As we say..love and food must not be taken in overdose,else they can result in vomiting[;)].
Same is with the money eating,if taken in overdose..it results in vomiting!![:)]
 
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Re: What would you prefer: Mercedes or Ambassador with red-beacon?

That's what I said.

If anyone, in any poll, on any forum selects 'other', please post what that 'other' is. Dharmesh sir, if you read this again please post.
First tell me what that other covers? It can anything from Alto to Beamer. Right? I would like neither of those. Would prefer an SUV instead. [:D]. May be new Storme.
 
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Vipul,

You have just entered politics, I have already served as BJYM Prez of my constituency (later quit as I wanted to focus on business), my maternal uncle is big shot guy in Vidarbha & other guy's office is filled with MLAs during election times. And trust me, it is the Merc which is powerful than red beacon amby. I have witnessed cases where ministers come begging for party funds, DMs, cops come for transfers etc. It is for the masses who think red beacon is powerful, in reality, its not. I have seen business guys commanding a private army [glasses]. Best part of these people is they maintain low profile in society, while politicians face you will find in newspaper, flex, hoardings & even common public toilets. [lol]

BTW, the DMs & rest have orange beacon, only cabinet level guys have red beacons. And yes, that red beacon is temporary, Merc power is permanent.

Anyways, here are couple of pics of one of our cars -
 

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