Our "Silver Bull": Skoda Octavia Style Plus 2.0 TDI AT


Thread Starter #31
Joined
Dec 11, 2016
Messages
45
Likes
55
Location
Gurgaon
Update after a long break:

20 K Kms done in 14 months. Car holds good and is fun to drive.

20180705_215224.jpg

Nano coating : Extremely useful. The sheen and the brightness of the car has been consistent. Just a wipe with the Jopasu dusters make the car clean. Water wash/wipe is done only once in two weeks in dry weather. Dust just does not stick. Been washing the car on my own. No swirl marks or scratches in 14 months. People still comment that it looks new.

Tyres: Been with the stock ones. Goodyear Eagle NCT5s are wearing out evenly. Wheel balancing and rotation done once in 7.5k kms in Bridgestone Wheel care centre (not sure about the ASS work). Good grip, but getting louder above 85/90 kmph. Daily highway drive to office is about 45 kms at average of 70 kmph and hence the noise levels are a bit of bother. Will last for another 25-30 k kms easily. Following the thread of Nikhil B and hence interested in trying out the MRF Perfinza's when the time comes.

Engine : A gem truly. The pull when needed and the lazy thrumming @ 1750 rpm for cruising at 100 kmph makes for a lovely note. Excellent torque available at just the dab of the pedal and overtaking even the 40 ft trailers is a breeze. Very good mileage. City/Highway combo mileage is fantastic with 18-19 kmpl is default. A full tank gives about 850-900 kms. Zimbly love it. [clap]

20180705_215246.jpg

DSG Gearbox : Has made driving a breeze - whether on highway or in the city traffic. There is a delay of atleast 1.5-2 secs before the downshift happens when an aggressive overtake or acceleration is required. Maybe the ECU is tuned to my soft pedal general drive.

Couple of niggles : Had some rattling issue in the sun-roof. Had it checked and lubricated in the second month of delivery. Was good till last month (for 12 months). Now sounding once in a while, when going through rumble strips or bad roads. Also looks like the left side view mirror rattles as well. Have to check both of these during some free time, before going to the ASS (i simply hate the idea of some mechanic touching the spotless interior while checking for this [frustration]).

Overall : Music system is good. Been playing the full quality FLAC songs as well. Spacious cabin and very good noise insulation upto 100 kmph and in city driving. Lights are good. Okay in the rains as well in city and highway drive. I prefer the yellow tinge rather than the blueishness of the LEDs.

All in all a happy and proud ownership experience.
 
Thread Starter #33
Joined
Dec 11, 2016
Messages
45
Likes
55
Location
Gurgaon
Clocked 25,000 Kms in 18 months, nearly exact. Low miles munched in the last couple of months due to frequent official travel.

Engine and DSG combo is great. Once the engine warms up after initial 7-8 mins drive, it becomes super silent and revs up effortlessly. Max speed done till date is 123 kmph, and i understand it does not do justice to the capability of this machine. Even at this, it hardly crossed 2k rpm and still have not used even 40% of the torque band revs. DSG is acting good, with my mostly sedate driving and soft on the pedal approach, at times ECU is slow to respond, so it takes atleast 1-1.5 secs to downshift, when i feel like sprinting. Overall the mileage is good and clocks regularly above 18.5+ kmpl. In the last few tankfulls, seeing about 1000 kms per tank, indicating 20+ kmpl. Being soft on the pedal and predominantly highway drive (NH48) for daily commute is helping a lot.

20181101_103109111.jpg
20181101_21560311.jpg

Tyres, Goodyear NCT5s, are holding good. Even tread wear, regular (once in 7.5kms) balancing and alignment and rotation is helping. Good grip as of now, though noisy above 80+ kmph speed. Looks good for another 25-30k kms, as commented by the Bridgestone dealer guy where i take it for balancing and alignment. Have tried multiple combination of tyre pressures - 36/34, 35/33, 34/32 and 32/32. While 32/32 does give a softer ride, felt 35/33 combination gives a better handling and braking as well as mileage. Thats what the tyres are filled up as of now. Using nitrogen filling, for what its worth, though not sure if the gas filled is actually only nitrogen. Anyway normal air is also 78% nitrogen. [;)]

Onyxaa 9H coating is helping. The shine and water beading is still good. Once in 2-3 weeks washing is the practice and in-between Jopasu duster is good enough. Driving in the highway mostly and silver colour too helps. Had couple of minor rear-ending experiences by bikers in Gurgaon traffic, but PPF on bumpers came in handy and no scratches so far on the bumpers, touchwood. Interior looks well and very little aging is noticeable. Till now its self cleaning and it helps in avoiding swirl marks.

20181101_21164011.jpg
 

Akash1886

Honoured Member
Joined
Sep 7, 2014
Messages
10,654
Likes
13,209
Location
Delhi-NCR/ Mumbai
Nice to see a happy Skoda Customer. Even better to see the car performing well..god bless the car[:)] My dad was with Skoda's Turbine Wing in Gurgaon and there were a fleet of Skoda cars in the office. Have closely seen the Octavia(s), Laura(s) and 1st gen Superb there. My favorite for the luxury was Superb and for the performance was Octavia. Sadly the Laura had a lot of downtime thanks to the Gearbox and other niggles as I remember. The service bills also were quite high back then i.e about 9-10 years back. Being a 2.0 L Diesel, the FE seems good to me. Skoda does make good performance oriented cars but its their after sales that holds back many buyers. How's your experience of Skoda's after sales in recent times?

Regards

Akash
 
Thread Starter #35
Joined
Dec 11, 2016
Messages
45
Likes
55
Location
Gurgaon
Drove down from Gurgaon to Ranthambore last week. Google showed up three options
1. Gurgaon - Alwar - Dausa - Lalsot - Ranthambore
2. Gurgaon - Manoharpur - Dausa - Lalsot - Ranthambore
3. Gurgaon - Manoharpur - Kothun - Lalsot - Ranthoambore

Opted for the Manoharpur - Dausa - Lalsot route on the onward journey.
Started around 8.20 am on Diwali day and reached by 4 pm. Had a halt at Old Rao Hotel near Biwadi for the breakfast. Reached Manoharpur around 11.30 and then Dausa by 12.15 noon. Journey till this was very enjoyable. Then the nightmare started - Dausa to Lalsot was(is) a complete mess. This took about 1 hr and 30 mins negating all the smooth drive till then. Once we crossed Lalsot, then the drive to Ranthambore was good again. All in all took about 6 hrs and 30 mins for 345 kms drive.

Gurgaon - Manoharpur - NH48, Overall good, but regular patches where the top layer has eroded. No need to slow down, but a bit uncomfortable. Two tolls, Fastag helped. 170 kms / 70kmph. Two tolls - Shahjahanpur - Rs 130, Mahoharpura - Rs 60

Manoharpura - Dausa - NH148 - Entry from NH48 is still under construction - about 1 km. Once this was crossed, the next 65 kms was butter smooth, one of the best i had driven in the northern part of India. Clearly marked, good dividers and picturesque as well. One toll before half way. Fastag helped. 70 kms / 85 kmph. One toll - Nekawala Plaza - Rs 45

Dausa - Lalsot - NH148 - Just before the Dausa town, need to take right on to the Agra-Jaipur highway and then take left through the ring road to join the Lalsot road after the town. The nightmare started here. The next 30 kms was a torture to drive even in an automatic. Road construction work was(is) going on in the entire 30 km stretch. It was(is) like every one km, the roads were dug up and filled with gravel and concrete patch for the next one km (not yet completed through, with sharp edges and rods protruding on the sides). Maybe one year down the line, the road will be good. But now, if you have (even if you do not have [frustration] )a choice please avoid it. Suspension, engine, gearbox, tyres, your legs and passengers will be saved. 40 kms / 25 kmph. Luckily no Toll. [lol]

Silver Bull needs a special mention here. While i was worried that it might scrap in many places, still suspension setup helped a lot and managed without much issue. At one place slight scrapping happened where the diversion joined with a high concrete patch.
120181107_122416.jpg
220181107_122435.jpg

Lalsot - Ranthambore - SH 24 - This was a welcome bliss after the previous 40 kms of hell. Good road. But lot of villages/small towns on frequent intervals and hence need to slow down regularly. Few unmarked speedbreakers, visible during day, but not sure during the night. Need to be wary of these. With farms/cultivation on either side a good soothing drive. 70kms / 65 kmph. Two tolls - but private cars were waived off. Only commercial vehicles were charged.

Return Opted for Lalsot - Kothun - Manoharpur option.
Started around 1 pm after lunch and reached by 10 pm after couple of breaks including dinner at Old Rao Hotel. Googled for other options with drive time. Instead of Lalsot - Dausa, the other option was to go to Kothun and then drive skirting Jaipur to reach Manoharpur. Checked drive time and google maps showed 1km/min drive time which is very good in day time. Additional distance was about 40 kms compared to previous route, but drive time more or less same. Hence opted for this. All in all took about 6 hrs and 45 mins for 385 kms drive.

Lalsot - Kothun - NH23 - This road can be reached by taking a left into the Chaksu-Lalsot link road which comes 2 kms before the Lalsot town starts. Good road and about 3 kms on this, take left to join into NH23.While 1-2 kms of this stretch was bad and made me think to turn back to the hell ride, but maps kept showing very good average speed. Hence kept moving on. After that the road opens up and is a good 4 lane one till Kothun, recently laid, markings not yet done. Definitely better than many roads but not as good as Dausa - Manoharpur stretch. 43 kms / 65 kmph. No toll as yet.

Kothun - Manoharpur - NH52 / NH248 - Good road. Tonk road it is. After 34 kms on this, take a right and go through some outskirts of Jaipur and join the Mahal road for about 7 kms and then join into NH248 and then onto NH48 few kms before Manoharpur. Mahal road and upto NH48, speeds will be low due to high local traffic and people crossing at odd places. 105 kms / 50 kmph. One toll - Barkedha Toll Plaza on NH52 - Rs 90. Fastag works.

Basis this recent experience, would recommend to take the round about way, rather than Lalsot-Dausa stretch atleast for the next 12 months.

Few shots from our visit

120181109_115838.jpg

120181109_115843.jpg

1520181109_084837.jpg

2420181109_091501.jpg

2120181109_090540.jpg

1820181109_085352.jpg

1620181109_084853.jpg

1720181109_085349.jpg

1920181109_085356.jpg

2020181109_090531.jpg
 
Thread Starter #36
Joined
Dec 11, 2016
Messages
45
Likes
55
Location
Gurgaon
2nd Service Update:
Completed 30k a month back, on 2nd Feb. Took the car to Jai Auto's in Gurgaon for the scheduled service. Had asked for the service appointment through the Skoda App. Got a prompt call back from the service center in couple of hours.

Went in by 9.30 am. SA was with me in 5 minutes. Told him i have the 4 yr service package. SA inquired about any issues i had. Told him about couple of observations: 1. Sunroof noise once in a while, like when going over the rumble strips or at fair speed on some stone paved roads. 2. The left sideview mirror stopped tilting while engaging reverse. 3. Battery seems to have weakened as there was some flicker once in a while after the weekend stop

Went out for a test ride, but as it usually happens, there was no noise from the sunroof. Anyway, told the SA that i will be with the car during the service.

Car was taken into the bay by 10.15. Work was done quick and Engine oil, Air filter, pollen filter, Diesel filter was all changed in quick succession. Complete underbody check was done. Except for a couple of scratches, it was fairly a good sight. [thumbswink]

After this scanning was done on the logs and reset was done for left side view mirror tilting function. Started working. The logs also showed that there is some issue with the batter. Battery strength test was done and it come out that the cells had weakened test result came with “Replace Battery”. This was when all the fun started. SA walked over and said that battery needs to be replaced and whether he can go ahead. I said yes as it will be free. He was a bit surprised and said that battery had a warranty of only 1 year. I told that might be true for batteries from outside india, but the one in my car was “Made in India” and hence it should have minimum 3 years warranty. Some discussion happened and the service general manager was brought in. TeamBHP came in handy. Showed the few threads on free / goodwill replacement done. Though most of these cases were in about 12-15 months, mine was nearly 22 months. The GM wanted to sound it out with the Skoda team. Even though it was a Sunday, some calls were made and then I was offered a replacement with a nominal charge of Rs 1,800 + tax, with two year warranty. Looked to be good offer, as in the meanwhile checked for price of equivalent battery from Amaron and Exide. Was costing upwards of 7k. So took it and asked the SA to go ahead with the change.

Picture of the new battery and brake pads


1Inked20190224_132931_LI.jpg


2Inked20190224_132706_LI.jpg
320190204_092301.jpg


Overall experience in this 22 months and 30k Kms:
  • Engine and Transmission are smooth as butter. Power on tap with the addictive pushback into the seats whenever I feel like. Excellent mileage, average hovering around 18-19 kmpl.
  • Brakes are fantastic. With 30k done and mostly sedate driving, it looks like the pads are good for another 20k minimum.
  • NCT5’s are holding good. The road noise level has gone up. The tread depths ranged from 2.9 to 3.1. The strange things was the front tyre depths were more than the rear. Had done the tyre rotation about 8k kms before. The service person said the tyres look good for atleast another 25k. I would want to get the Perfinzas at the earliest.
  • No software or map updates as of now.
Will be checking out the 5th/6th year extended warranty announced couple of weeks back. Have asked the SA to update once the details are available. Have not yet got a call. [sad]
 
Last edited:
Thread Starter #37
Joined
Dec 11, 2016
Messages
45
Likes
55
Location
Gurgaon
Update: AC compressor changed @ 32.2 K Kms

Sometime during late Oct'18 felt that the AC cooling had a delayed start. Blower was working, but no chillness in the air. Peculiar thing was that this happened only in the mornings mostly due to overnight parking. Then after couple of days noticed it even during the late evening starts, with a 10-12 hrs stoppage. Took it to Jai Auto Skoda @ Gurgaon. All parameters were checked and everything including gas pressure and weight turned out to be okay. After discussion, the service manager asked the AC technician to deplete the gas & oil, vaccum the circuit and refill. This was done in about an hour. It was agreed that i would run the car for few days and incase of repeat of issues compressor check also would be done. No charges for this. [:D]

Since it was start of winter, it was not clear whether the cooling is getting delayed or working fine as the night temperature started dipping below 18 C and reached to low mid single digits over the next few months and continued the same till late March. Hence even during the 30 K Km service done in Feb, this was not attended to.

Come April, the temperatures soared and again the delayed start was very evident. Took it back to Jai Auto and was asked to leave the car for overnight check. Got a call from the SA, Nikhil, that the issue had been diagnosed as Compressor failure and will be changed under warranty. I had meanwhile crawled most of the SKODA forums found that RCV – Refrigerant Control Valve – going kaput leads to this issue. To replace it a AC specialist guy will be required. Would have searched for one rather than going with Skoda service as that valve is about Rs 6k. But as the vehicle was under warranty, agreed to go ahead with the entire compressor change. I felt lucky as the replacement compressor was available readily in the stores. Delivery was confirmed for the next day.

Small niggles attended to:
Asked my SA Nikhil to also check on the sunroof rattling over rumble strips or potholed roads. This was initially attended by doing some lubrication on the sunroof channels and was expected to solve the problem. While doing the test drive before giving delivery of the vehicle the rattling was noticed again and hence SA Nikhil asked to hold the vehicle for one more day and check with the Skoda engineering team. Was told that they advised to remove the assembly and then realign and tighten some link rods.

3M Upholstery & Interior cleaning:
Meanwhile SA Nikhil after checking the car when taken for servicing advised to go for the 3M drycleaning of the leather seats as over the last two years some stains and dirt had accumulated with generous contribution from kids. Checked the rates – Rs 1.5k for the entire seats, roof lining, carpet and doors/dashboard. Checked out few of the comments in our forum and understood that its value for money offer. Agreed and asked him to go ahead.

All in all the vehicle was at the service centre for 3 days. Did a longish test drive along with SA Nikhil and tried some rough roads as well. The sun roof rattling was gone and the rubber beading grinding noise as well had disappeared. The seats were cleaned well and the entire floor board along with dashboard and door padding looked like factory new. Seat leathers were soft and supple, looked shiny but not slippery.

Need to mention that the service experience was very good and left me pleasantly surprised. No unnecessary delays or push for additional services, with just the needed suggestions like the 3M cleaning. Timely updates. Kudos to SA Nikhil. Even when he had to go on a leave on one of the in-between days, Nikhil had arranged for another of his colleague to give me an update on the repair status, including the pre-delivery internal test drive and the delivery timelines. So far so good over the two years of ownership. Hope this continues so that Skoda ASS rating improves. Fingers crossed.

The total cost of compressor change and Sun roof rattling servicing was about Rs 76.5k, but charged Nil as all these were covered under warranty. The 3M dry cleaning cost was Rs 1.5k+GST and the Silver Bull is now ready for munching more miles. [drive]
Estimate 1.jpg

Bill 11.jpg

Bill 21.jpg
 

allhyundaicars

Honoured Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2012
Messages
7,434
Likes
3,009
Location
New Delhi
There are many instances of ac compressor going kaput on Octavia and I have also read about the fuel pump issues. Wonder whether this happens in Indian condition or all throughout the world. Parts sure are pricey.
 
Thread Starter #39
Joined
Dec 11, 2016
Messages
45
Likes
55
Location
Gurgaon
There are many instances of ac compressor going kaput on Octavia and I have also read about the fuel pump issues. Wonder whether this happens in Indian condition or all throughout the world. Parts sure are pricey.
Based on various skoda forums including briskoda, this looks to be a relatively common failure. This is a clutchless model.
 
Top Bottom