Re: Advice Needed-ICE System
Indeed they are liars and thieves.
Answering your questions paragraph-wise :
1. That "Jaali" is nothing but a spacer ring made of MDF which is installed anyway in all cases. What I think they are saying is that they would get you a thick 1.5-2" ring (usually 0.75" thick is normal) which will make the 6.5" speaker stick out a lot. Speakers get lesser in diameter as you move from the front to back. So, your 6.5" speaker will be around 4" when it reaches the doorpad provision. But the speaker will stick out very much. Since speaker will be pushed out it will obviously not touch the doorpad (metal touching part). Search "Wooden MDF Spacer Car Speaker" on Google and you will know. Spacer is fitted on 4" provision (inner edges of spacer) and speaker is fitted on the outer edges of spacer (6.5").
2. Price for components is high. Polk DB6501, one of the best in the market, is sold for 6.5k in NCR and 7k online. Get that if possible. Price for 6x9 is fine. Subwoofer is too highly priced at 5.2k, in NCR it is available for 2650 bucks (without bill) and 3550 bucks with bill. Online it is around 3.5k. Amplifiers are a bit overpriced. 470SF should be around 6-6.3k. Only GXA644SI at 5.7k is fine. Check online, prices are much much lower.
3. Mono-block isn't really needed for a single subwoofer or a single coil subwoofer. Go for 2 Channel or if you want a future-proof amp, go for 4 Channel. On a mono block, you can run one dual coil woofer or 2 single coil woofers as it is capable of running at 2 Ohm load (but there should be identical woofers).
4. MDF tray at 750 if fine. Try and find out who is the maker of these MDF items, get directly from him. It would turn out to be cheaper and you can get it made properly instead of going for pre-made boxes and trays.
5. Konnects is decent if your budget is low. Price is also fine. Fusion is also famous and retails for 950 in NCR, check that out also. For branded kits, look for Focal PK8, retails for 3k online.
I would say get your equipment from Snapdeal (only trustable and co-operative site for high value items) and get them installed at Chandigarh. That would be best.
In your case, total comes to ~25k. Get the following at these rates approx -
HU - 3k or even the one at 3.2k is fine.
Front DB6501 - 7k
Subwoofer GTX1200 - 3.5k
Amp 470SF - 6.3k
Wiring - 1.3k
MDF Spacers, woofer box, labour - 1.5k
TOTAL = ~22k (includes better components).
I have sent a PM to Saroya already but I think he isn't active currently. I will PM Joni_Rajpura, he is also a Punjabi brother.
I just came back after roaming around many shops in Chandigarh. Surprised to see people are still stuck on Sony's and Nippon's.
Though I don't like most the shops but there was this shop. Car Life Sector-28. That guy seemed to know what he was talking about so I asked to chalk up the estimate. This is what he gave me.
I asked him what are the alternatives for the front door speakers of Zen? I asked would 6 inch components be able to fit? He bluntly said why not, to which I replied how? And I additionally said that I don't want any cutting shutting. He said some thing like "Sir, nayi jaali lag jayegi Kuch kaatne ki zarurat Nani padegi" I didn't understand this part. He said when I will bring the car he will show me. I asked at what price. He said it will be free or cost will be included in the components.
I asked the same thing from 2-3 shops who were working on audis n beemers.. All said same thing.. No need of cutting.. Jaali lag jayegi and magnet door ok bhi nahi touch karegi. I wonder how will they do that?
This is the price of the components here in Chandigarh
HU: Pio- MVH089UB--Rs. 3200/-
Front components: Kicker (SoundGate: 4500/- JBL: 6000/- Infinity Reference: 8000/-) he said kicker n JBL has good punch, infinity n polk are good for vocals. Need Expert advise
Rear: If front components are not installed then JBL GTOs 950SI- I guess this can be eliminated now but the price is 4500/-
Sub Woofer: JBL GTX1200: 5200/-
Amp1: Blau 470SF for Speakers/Components: He said PIO amps or JBLs will be the best.
Blaus he said for 6700/-.
He said JBL GTX series are good (@ 6700) I said GTX series are of no good and heats up a lot. then he said take GXA series at 5700/-
I have few questions here
Q1: Would you suggest purchasing a monoblock Amp for the Sub?
Q2: Since monoblock block has one output can I run 2 subs in series on it. If I plan to use it in my other car (Innova)
MDF tray he said is of 750/- bucks
Gauge 8 cables for fitting he said he have of C(K)onnect brand (@ 1250/-) I said any reputed brand like bull audio, kicker, etc. he said out of stock. shall I purchase it online of some decent brand?
Misc charges 500-100 on labour.
Need help of some resident expert to determine the best shoppers in Chandigarh . They (ICE Dealers) all seemed like liars n thieves here.
Though I don't like most the shops but there was this shop. Car Life Sector-28. That guy seemed to know what he was talking about so I asked to chalk up the estimate. This is what he gave me.
I asked him what are the alternatives for the front door speakers of Zen? I asked would 6 inch components be able to fit? He bluntly said why not, to which I replied how? And I additionally said that I don't want any cutting shutting. He said some thing like "Sir, nayi jaali lag jayegi Kuch kaatne ki zarurat Nani padegi" I didn't understand this part. He said when I will bring the car he will show me. I asked at what price. He said it will be free or cost will be included in the components.
I asked the same thing from 2-3 shops who were working on audis n beemers.. All said same thing.. No need of cutting.. Jaali lag jayegi and magnet door ok bhi nahi touch karegi. I wonder how will they do that?
This is the price of the components here in Chandigarh
HU: Pio- MVH089UB--Rs. 3200/-
Front components: Kicker (SoundGate: 4500/- JBL: 6000/- Infinity Reference: 8000/-) he said kicker n JBL has good punch, infinity n polk are good for vocals. Need Expert advise
Rear: If front components are not installed then JBL GTOs 950SI- I guess this can be eliminated now but the price is 4500/-
Sub Woofer: JBL GTX1200: 5200/-
Amp1: Blau 470SF for Speakers/Components: He said PIO amps or JBLs will be the best.
Blaus he said for 6700/-.
He said JBL GTX series are good (@ 6700) I said GTX series are of no good and heats up a lot. then he said take GXA series at 5700/-
I have few questions here
Q1: Would you suggest purchasing a monoblock Amp for the Sub?
Q2: Since monoblock block has one output can I run 2 subs in series on it. If I plan to use it in my other car (Innova)
MDF tray he said is of 750/- bucks
Gauge 8 cables for fitting he said he have of C(K)onnect brand (@ 1250/-) I said any reputed brand like bull audio, kicker, etc. he said out of stock. shall I purchase it online of some decent brand?
Misc charges 500-100 on labour.
Need help of some resident expert to determine the best shoppers in Chandigarh . They (ICE Dealers) all seemed like liars n thieves here.
Answering your questions paragraph-wise :
1. That "Jaali" is nothing but a spacer ring made of MDF which is installed anyway in all cases. What I think they are saying is that they would get you a thick 1.5-2" ring (usually 0.75" thick is normal) which will make the 6.5" speaker stick out a lot. Speakers get lesser in diameter as you move from the front to back. So, your 6.5" speaker will be around 4" when it reaches the doorpad provision. But the speaker will stick out very much. Since speaker will be pushed out it will obviously not touch the doorpad (metal touching part). Search "Wooden MDF Spacer Car Speaker" on Google and you will know. Spacer is fitted on 4" provision (inner edges of spacer) and speaker is fitted on the outer edges of spacer (6.5").
2. Price for components is high. Polk DB6501, one of the best in the market, is sold for 6.5k in NCR and 7k online. Get that if possible. Price for 6x9 is fine. Subwoofer is too highly priced at 5.2k, in NCR it is available for 2650 bucks (without bill) and 3550 bucks with bill. Online it is around 3.5k. Amplifiers are a bit overpriced. 470SF should be around 6-6.3k. Only GXA644SI at 5.7k is fine. Check online, prices are much much lower.
3. Mono-block isn't really needed for a single subwoofer or a single coil subwoofer. Go for 2 Channel or if you want a future-proof amp, go for 4 Channel. On a mono block, you can run one dual coil woofer or 2 single coil woofers as it is capable of running at 2 Ohm load (but there should be identical woofers).
4. MDF tray at 750 if fine. Try and find out who is the maker of these MDF items, get directly from him. It would turn out to be cheaper and you can get it made properly instead of going for pre-made boxes and trays.
5. Konnects is decent if your budget is low. Price is also fine. Fusion is also famous and retails for 950 in NCR, check that out also. For branded kits, look for Focal PK8, retails for 3k online.
I would say get your equipment from Snapdeal (only trustable and co-operative site for high value items) and get them installed at Chandigarh. That would be best.
In your case, total comes to ~25k. Get the following at these rates approx -
HU - 3k or even the one at 3.2k is fine.
Front DB6501 - 7k
Subwoofer GTX1200 - 3.5k
Amp 470SF - 6.3k
Wiring - 1.3k
MDF Spacers, woofer box, labour - 1.5k
TOTAL = ~22k (includes better components).
I have sent a PM to Saroya already but I think he isn't active currently. I will PM Joni_Rajpura, he is also a Punjabi brother.