Originally Posted by Sam Dinkar
Anand, if only people at Fiat would have worked as hard as you.....
I hope the patchwork is done properly. As Keith has said, if there's a leak, it'd do more damage and undo everything. What gauge sheet was used for the patch up job?
What about the oil leak around the head? Have you managed to sort that out?
The patch work has been done in the cowl panel area without damaging the AC hoses etc. also the mounting point for the wiper motor was also newly fabricated. We did pour some water & checked it before taking the car, there were no leaks. I'm not aware about the guage, but it was sligthly thicker than cowl panel sheet. He has given 2 patches on both sides (dashboard & wiper motor) of the rusted hole.
Our mechanic said that the oil leak was from the tappet gasket (referred as water packing) which I did get replaced at the time of oil change. After that I did a mild cleaning with diesel, soap water & paint brush. Yesterday there was no oil coming out of that area. However after a week of usage I will be able to confirm the same. Some more points to share:
1. Just like many other parts, the aluminum cover on top of the engine (tappet cover) is no more available in spares shops. It is a fragile item, if dropped from a waist height on to a solid floor, the chances it will develop a hairline crack & later its a big task to find replacement part from the scrapyards.
2. In most old petrol cars whenever we change oil after a long time, it is good to replace spark plugs as 1 of the old sparks does stop working. It has happened with my 800, this Palio & another 800 as well.
3. Some parts look similar to those in Indica (like Blower vents etc), not sure if they can be swapped when required
4. Unlike Matiz, Palio bumpers are still available, but only on order basis. Usually for Bangalore supplies come either from Kerala/Tamil Nadu.
5. In case you need any part & if it is not available in the popular stores on J.C.Road etc then watch out for shops that sell Matador, TATA & commercial vehicle spares, they might refer you to the right shop.
6. Fiat Logos & monograms are costly but good thing is they are seldom bought by customers hence chances of landing buying a duplicate one is very rare.
7. Even wheel caps have proper markings with outline of the air nozzle & a proper scoop to show how to the fit the wheel caps.
8. The front suspension of Palio comes with a couple of rubber bushes, in case of any lower arm issues (I think its called wishbone)/noises, the whole part need not be replace. Instead only rubbers need to be replaced. As far as I know the front suspension of Etios, swift & i20 are somewhat similar & their bushes might fit in this car.
9. The replacement for the hydraulic clutch hose is not available in the market, so some other car part can be used I guess. like say the diesel swift/figo etc
10. There are 2 types of wiper link rods that came with Palio. The one I showed in page 3 are the TVS Lucas ones, there is another one which I believe came with the Palio Stile where in the wiper motor's mounting holes are different. Unless you take the wiper motor with you, its hard to find the right part.
11. Bumper prices are not mentioned anywhere on the part, different shops have different prices for the same part. These are the prices I got so far - 4500, 7000, 3900. The reason for this is most of the popular shops dont stock Fiat parts so when you approach them, they contact some distributor in neighboring states & will try to get the bumper for you along with the other supplies.
12. Speedometer is still available but the cost is a whopping 9000! (not sure how far the price is true) its an Italian make. Power window switches on centre console are extinct now.
13. I also spoke to Aadya motors a TATA & FIAT service centre - the engine rebuild cost at the FASS is in the range of 40,000/- to 85,000/- but the advisor says if you spend this much the car will last for over a decade which means roughly about 7000/- for engine every year. He also says the car will be silent & smoother than any model Punto/swift/i20 etc. FASS sources Palio parts from Haryana where they have some of the main stockists. I am sure if we spend that much outside, we can restore the whole car & will last roughly that long.
Pretty soon most Palio parts will come with a premium rate or they wont be available at all. Although I generally like Maruti cars, after spending time with this Fiat baby, its tough to just let it go & see myself walking towards a Japanese tin, yet again. No offense to any car maker/owner, but somehow in the last 1year a feeling has grown inside me that says - "Older the better"
. Its quite sad whenever I see that even a pristine condition Palio sells hardly for about 70K max (if it has gas/some accessory in it) where as some cars which are half of what this car is fetch a lakh easily.