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rahulmoshal 27th December 2014 10:20 AM

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One fine day, I decided to divert from the usual route to my college and rolled my Pulsar 220 on NH72, hardly 2kms from my room I noticed a PP (UGY278) parked beside a tree, probably ready for being scrapped. This went on for a while, everyday for a couple of weeks I used to take the same route just to have aglimpse of this beauty which ruled Indian roads for a considerable time and it was becoming really hard for me to see it getting rusted in front of my eyes and the fear of it being scrapped any moment. Finally I decided to talk to the workshop owner there who owns it as of now and tagged along my three friends namely, Sandeep Rawat, Azim Hussain and Vinay Pal in order to buy the car. And thus started the classic life of ous, story is not yet complete, rest will be poured in after approval. [:)]


Here's a video by me on our first test runs post engine restoration, though it was in working condition already and with just water pump replacement, it was ready to roll.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8kbGV2b6Q.

bharathbigb 27th December 2014 11:01 AM

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Awesome,Sir.It definitly feels like something else to Save Old abandoned Vehicles especially for Enthusiasists and Ca lovers like us.I wish you a Very happy and Safe Ownership.Also don't forget to buy 2 or More rare parts if you find them.And [surprise] Am I seeing White Walls ? Keep it,Don't replace it.Whitewalls are like "Here I am ! Love Me !".Body also looks good.Please post sume more Pictures.Will you be doing a Full restoration ?

incarnation 27th December 2014 11:03 AM

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good to see your love for old cars. Congratulation for acquiring the Beauty.eagerly waiting for the rest of the story. I'm sure there's lot of interesting moments to share[:D].

TSIVipul 27th December 2014 11:08 AM

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@Rahul:
That's a fantastic car and even better is what you are doing.

Your motorcycle is same as mine BTW!

So, what's your plan regarding this car?

Are you an engineering student? Your profile pic makes me feel like there is someone who build student formula or Baja vehicle like I did around an year back with my team.

Missing those days, I too had many plans like restoring an old ambassador, an old jeep etc and then I joined business and everything is forgotten!!

Why not do something like this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=IOuqCQChKpk

Congrats for the beauty, damn impressive it is.

rahulmoshal 27th December 2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by incarnation (Post 425976)
good to see your love for old cars. Congratulation for acquiring the Beauty.eagerly waiting for the rest of the story. I'm sure there's lot of interesting moments to share.

Thankyou very much, will soon narrate rest of the story as well.

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Originally Posted by TSIVipul (Post 425978)
@Rahul:
That's a fantastic car and even better is what you are doing.

Your motorcycle is same as mine BTW!

So, what's your plan regarding this car?

Are you an engineering student? Your profile pic makes me feel like there is someone who build student formula or Baja vehicle like I did around an year back with my team.

Missing those days, I too had many plans like restoring an old ambassador, an old jeep etc and then I joined business and everything is forgotten!!

Why not do something like this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=IOuqCQChKpk

Congrats for the beauty, damn impressive it is.

Thankyou, yes the car is awesome as well as the bike, you got it right I am an engineering student and that car was made by our senior's seniors[drive] (superseniors)
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Originally Posted by bharathbigb (Post 425975)
Awesome,Sir.It definitly feels like something else to Save Old abandoned Vehicles especially for Enthusiasists and Ca lovers like us.I wish you a Very happy and Safe Ownership.Also don't forget to buy 2 or More rare parts if you find them.And Am I seeing White Walls ? Keep it,Don't replace it.Whitewalls are like "Here I am ! Love Me !".Body also looks good.Please post sume more Pictures.Will you be doing a Full restoration ?

Thakyou Bharathbigb , As of now I'm totally dependent on pocket money for expenses so full restoration won't be possible for me. The car doesn't need any restoration to be honest, it's simply in the best condition one could expect from a classic. I'll soon post some pictures, car has not been washed still. The car doesn't have even a single dent on its body.[cheers]
Unfortunately the white walled tyres are totally used up and front right one busted while driving, thankfully at crawling speeds and is now replaced with MRF ZV2K 165/80R14.

rahulmoshal 28th December 2014 10:15 AM

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Continuation of the story....
Soon me and my three buddies started going to the workshop everyday, bunking classes for it and even bunked an internal exam for the noble deed[lol]. The engine wasn't running still as it's battery was in a bad state or say it wasn't a battery at all, it was a reminiscent of so called "Batteras" of past(that's what the dealer told me). With almost no money in our pockets, we decided not to continue further before some fund collection. After a day or two, we had collected enough money to at least start the engine but to our surprise the humble mechanic did it for free. Not to forget, we push started it in gear without brakes and that too on one of the busiest and accident prone two lane highway ahead the workshop, i.e., NH72. After the engine was started, we noticed that water pump is leaking, thanks to the owner who used tap water as coolant without coolant and Dehradun's water is known for it's high amount of salt deposits. The water pump had white colored solid powder everywhere. The radiator was in a working condition with no leakages though. The brakes were not working as all the wheel cylinder jammed with time, so we now got 4 brand new wheel cylinders with brand new brake shoes.[:)] All the hoses were replaced next day including Radiator hoses & brake hoses.

incarnation 29th December 2014 12:13 PM

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more pics please. I'm in love with this thread now. That steering looks awesome, however where is the horn Ring which should have been with the steering

rahulmoshal 31st December 2014 07:40 AM

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Sorry for keeping you guys waiting. My laptop has run into some problem, I will get back ASAP.

rahulmoshal 1st January 2015 10:59 AM

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Hi guys, My laptop is still out of order so I am unable to upload pics. Anyways I have changed the steering wheel to MOMO since stock one was touching my leg while braking and could be culprit for a crash, so I decided to be on safer side. Though I have the stock steering wheel with me and it is not going anywhere. Also installed 4 new spark plugs BOSCH made, all cylinders are working now, previously only 3 were firing and car was vibrating a lot, now it feels very good. I would like to know which engine oil is best suited for PP and is MRF Zv2k a good Tyre considering car would be doing 1000kms occasional trips to Himalayan?

The car has done 72115kms till now, tyres were never changed except for front right one. Hoping to get my queries answered soon by all the gurus here.

rahulmoshal 1st January 2015 11:02 AM

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Here it is:[:)]

Akash1886 1st January 2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 426947)
Anyways I have changed the steering wheel to MOMO since stock one was touching my leg while braking and could be culprit for a crash, so I decided to be on safer side. Though I have the stock steering wheel with me and it is not going anywhere.

Rahul the steering wheel was iconic, I feel after fulfilling your excitement revert back to the OEM one.

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I would like to know which engine oil is best suited for PP
Castrol Magnatec, Semi Synthetic oil. Needs change after 10,000 kms and use the Purolator Oil Filter with it.

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The car has done 72115kms till now, tyres were never changed except for front right one. Hoping to get my queries answered soon by all the gurus here.
At present what section Tyre are there in the car i.e 175, 165 or 185? The details on Tyre's dimension can help to suggest the suitable brand.

For more details on Tyre you may refer this link.

Regards and Happy New Year!

Akash

rahulmoshal 1st January 2015 11:15 AM

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Here are some pics

rahulmoshal 1st January 2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Akash1886 (Post 426952)
Rahul the steering wheel was iconic, I feel after fulfilling your excitement revert back to the OEM one.



Castrol Magnatec, Semi Synthetic oil. Needs change after 10,000 kms and use the Purolator Oil Filter with it.



At present what section Tyre are there in the car i.e 175, 165 or 185? The details on Tyre's dimension can help to suggest the suitable brand.

For more details on Tyre you may refer this link.

Regards and Happy New Year!

Akash

Thanks and Happy new year to you too, the car comes with 5.60-14 MRF legends from factory, I m using a Zv2k 165/80R14 on front(only one Tyre). Indeed the steering was classic and the change would be reverted if I am able to adjust the seat a little. The manual says 10W40 grade oil to be used, is Castrol Magnatec available in that grade as well?

Ilangop 1st January 2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 425972)
Finally I decided to talk to the workshop owner there who owns it as of now and tagged along my three friends namely, Sandeep Rawat, Azim Hussain and Vinay Pal in order to buy the car.

Here's a video by me on our first test runs post engine restoration

Congratulations in your new buy and appreciate your motivation in saving a rusting classic beauty.

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Originally Posted by incarnation (Post 426340)
however where is the horn Ring which should have been with the steering

Ring type horn switches came in Ambassadors. Fiats came with this type round switches and were changes to a trapezoidal type in Deluxe-BE and S1 Deluxe.
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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 426950)
Here it is:[:)]

Guess, the steering is little harder now. What have you done for the horn switch now.

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 426947)
Also installed 4 new spark plugs BOSCH made, all cylinders are working now, previously only 3 were firing and car was vibrating a lot, now it feels very good. I would like to know which engine oil is best suited for PP and is MRF Zv2k a good Tyre considering car would be doing 1000kms occasional trips to Himalayan?
The car has done 72115kms till now, tyres were never changed except for front right one.

Can you post a picture of the sparkplug from the cylinder which was not firing. Did you check if the plug didn't spark because of oil deposition or due to electrical problem. Any 20W40 Mineral oil is fine. You get 3.5 litre packs these days from almost all reputed oil brands. Tyre are made of rubber compounds which tend to crack over time even if not used. So better change them. 155/65R14 of WagonR Stingray or 165/65R14 will be the closest to 5.20-14 bias ply tyre for PP. Tyres wider than 165 profile will need more effort to steer and affect fuel economy also. If the rims are rusted or bent you may buy Fiat Punto 14" rims from Fiat showroom. Might cost about Rs800/- each. They directly fit in PP. Before doing a 1000km trip, I would drive the car for a day 200 - 300 km trip to gain confidence on the car itself. Change the fan belt also.

rahulmoshal 1st January 2015 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ilangop (Post 426959)
Congratulations in your new buy and appreciate your motivation in saving a rusting classic beauty.

Ring type horn switches came in Ambassadors. Fiats came with this type round switches and were changes to a trapezoidal type in Deluxe-BE and S1 Deluxe.
Guess, the steering is little harder now. What have you done for the horn switch now.

Can you post a picture of the sparkplug from the cylinder which was not firing. Did you check if the plug didn't spark because of oil deposition or due to electrical problem. Any 20W40 Mineral oil is fine. You get 3.5 litre packs these days from almost all reputed oil brands. Tyre are made of rubber compounds which tend to crack over time even if not used. So better change them. 155/65R14 of WagonR Stingray or 165/65R14 will be the closest to 5.20-14 bias ply tyre for PP. Tyres wider than 165 profile will need more effort to steer and affect fuel economy also. If the rims are rusted or bent you may buy Fiat Punto 14" rims from Fiat showroom. Might cost about Rs800/- each. They directly fit in PP. Before doing a 1000km trip, I would drive the car for a day 200 - 300 km trip to gain confidence on the car itself. Change the fan belt also.

Thanks a lot, any enthusiast other than me would have done the same to same to save it from dying to rust.

I think 165/65R14 will be very low in terms of Tyre wall height, the Swift tyres are having aspect ratio of 165/80 still ride height is a bit lower. I'm not sure which spark plug wasn't working, the spark plug was the culprit though as on installation of new plugs all cylinders were working and I tested it using a litre of petrol in a bottle, it's FE almost doubled. There was a lot of petrol on all four plugs, I guess cos of carb setting too rich.

Ilangop 1st January 2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 426962)
Thanks a lot, any enthusiast other than me would have done the same to same to save it from dying to rust.

I think 165/65R14 will be very low in terms of Tyre wall height, the Swift tyres are having aspect ratio of 165/80 still ride height is a bit lower. I'm not sure which spark plug wasn't working, the spark plug was the culprit though as on installation of new plugs all cylinders were working and I tested it using a litre of petrol in a bottle, it's FE almost doubled. There was a lot of petrol on all four plugs, I guess cos of carb setting too rich.

http://www.turbinecar.com/tires.htm
The radial type equivalent tyres for the 5.2" - 14 bias ply are listed here. Coincidentally the Wagon R Stingray comes with 155/65/R14 which is more or less a close match for 5.2-14 without compromising on the steering effort. Asked about the sparkplug because it will indicate if engine oil is getting into the combustion chamber through the valve seal or piston ring.

Akash1886 1st January 2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 426958)
The manual says 10W40 grade oil to be used, is Castrol Magnatec available in that grade as well?

Yes it is dear. I use same for my Ivtec City.

Pics for your help!

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Regards

Akash

rahulmoshal 2nd January 2015 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilangop (Post 426968)
http://www.turbinecar.com/tires.htm
The radial type equivalent tyres for the 5.2" - 14 bias ply are listed here. Coincidentally the Wagon R Stingray comes with 155/65/R14 which is more or less a close match for 5.2-14 without compromising on the steering effort. Asked about the sparkplug because it will indicate if engine oil is getting into the combustion chamber through the valve seal or piston ring.

I will check again with new plugs and get back, as of now I'm a bit busy with exams so unable to give time to the car.

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Originally Posted by Akash1886 (Post 426973)
Yes it is dear. I use same for my Ivtec City.

Pics for your help!

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Regards

Akash

Thanks a LOT @akash1886 sir, It is really helpful.

rahulmoshal 3rd January 2015 07:14 AM

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Took it out for a small spin day before yesterday and battery died suddenly, The Dynamo isn't working and I m planning to swap it with alternator setup, is it doable? If so, what else other than alternator do I need?

Thanks in Advance

Akash1886 3rd January 2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 427280)
Took it out for a small spin day before yesterday and battery died suddenly, The Dynamo isn't working and I m planning to swap it with alternator setup, is it doable?

Rahul, you may surely use an alternator in the Premier Padmini. I clearly remember having it in my FIAT too.

Regards

Akash

rahulmoshal 3rd January 2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Akash1886 (Post 427413)
Rahul, you may surely use an alternator in the Premier Padmini. I clearly remember having it in my FIAT too.

Regards

Akash

I searched different forums and came to know that it's a direct fit to PP from PP S1 models and 118NE. One more query, In case my car battery discharges, what is the probability of it going kaput?
Can you please guide me on tuning the carb, the spark plug showed that car was running too rich. BTW, it uses a Solex Downdraft carburetor.

Akash1886 3rd January 2015 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 427420)
One more query, In case my car battery discharges, what is the probability of it going kaput?

Asked my dad, he told, alternator is provided for generation of current. In case the battery gets out then starting the vehicle will be an issue however, once the vehicle is started by pushing it then the alternator shall work and shall charge the battery dear.

Regards

Akash

rahulmoshal 3rd January 2015 09:40 PM

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Some more pics of the car [:)]

First of all please don't curse me for not cleaning the car, it's in exactly the same condition we bought it.... Okay... Slightly better condition since my exams are going on and car will be worked upon soon including new paintjob and other things.

rahulmoshal 12th January 2015 07:14 PM

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Hi dear TAIns,
First of all I would like to apologize for my absence from the thread as I was busy with my Engineering exams. My PP finally while bringing home from Garage after a mild wash (not a through wash as they didn't have greasing facility),I and Azim were inside the car while my bike was being rode by Vinay Pal, I was on the wheel and felt like car was misfiring. We knew car has a kaput battery so it would be a pain to stall in traffic and my fears came true. Engine died suddenly and soon the battery too, I thought it was a battery issue at first so tried to push start the car but no use, later I came to to know that ignition coil had failed after I removed a plug from spark plug hole and cranked the engine. There was no spark at all. Luckily we were just 1km from my place and somehow pushed it for 100m and than it rolled downhill with engine off. I got A MARUTI 800 IGNITION COIL the next day and installed it today and bang, the car started in half a crank.
Now a few queries :
1)PP exhaust is broken /deformed as a result of rust , what replacement exhausts are available in the market?
I would like to know the near exact fuel economy of PP.


THANKS IN ADVANCE

Akash1886 12th January 2015 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 428894)
Hi dear TAIns,
First of all I would like to apologize for my absence from the thread as I was busy with my Engineering exams.
Now a few queries :
1)PP exhaust is broken /deformed as a result of rust , what replacement exhausts are available in the market?
I would like to know the near exact fuel economy of PP.

Hey Rahul, I hope your exams went well! Stock Exhaust could be found either with scrap dealer if he has any car or in whole-sale car market.

Why not go for a performance exhaust?[;)] As of I remember, my car use to give 13-14 km/L at time of selling in 2006. It had Maruti carburetor.

Regards

Akash

rahulmoshal 12th January 2015 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Akash1886 (Post 428929)
Hey Rahul, I hope your exams went well! Stock Exhaust could be found either with scrap dealer if he has any car or in whole-sale car market.

Why not go for a performance exhaust?[;)] As of I remember, my car use to give 13-14 km/L at time of selling in 2006. It had Maruti carburetor.

Regards

Akash

I would for sure like to have a performance exhaust , any suggestions for it, any particular brand? [:D] We have a Gypsy Carburetor with us, unused, any possibilities of plonking it on the existing intake manifold. What Jets should I use for the carb if I use another carburetor?

Akash1886 12th January 2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 428935)
I would for sure like to have a performance exhaust , any suggestions for it, any particular brand? [:D]

Well Rahul my City IVtec has the Nitto Stainless Steel Exhaust and the note is good enough for me. Here's the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq5TbGAosG0

As for the carburetor, my one had the Maruti 800 wala setup!

Regards

Akash

arunabh8899 13th January 2015 12:04 AM

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Hey..thats a very good job you guys are doing.Its never anything more exciting than restoring a good car.As you are a student try to keep yourself limited to 2nd hand parts in working conditions as that would be cheaper.An old aged car demands more attention and burns the pocket in initial days.All the best and keep posting.

rahulmoshal 14th January 2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Akash1886 (Post 428936)
Well Rahul my City IVtec has the Nitto Stainless Steel Exhaust and the note is good enough for me. Here's the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq5TbGAosG0

As for the carburetor, my one had the Maruti 800 wala setup!

Regards

Akash

Thanks for that video, the car sounds pretty cool, wondering what a PP would sound like with that exhaust, it already roars.

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Originally Posted by arunabh8899 (Post 428959)
Hey..thats a very good job you guys are doing.Its never anything more exciting than restoring a good car.As you are a student try to keep yourself limited to 2nd hand parts in working conditions as that would be cheaper.An old aged car demands more attention and burns the pocket in initial days.All the best and keep posting.

Thank you sir, We have bought almost 90% parts from scrapyard and 'chor bazars' [:)], it indeed is a cheaper and better alternative for classic cars.


PS: My exhaust which is already having four to five leaks on pipe, is exhaling white smoke, somewhat like steam, very little while running and a lot of it when revved in neutral or clutch pressed. I guess it to be a faulty cylinder head gasket, can it be any other issue other than that?
Thanks

rahulmoshal 30th January 2015 07:40 AM

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I bought a used Apollo Amazer 175 mm from a friend, for Rs. 500, hope it fits Padmini.

Mr.Boss 30th January 2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 431639)
I bought a used Apollo Amazer 175 mm from a friend, for Rs. 500, hope it fits Padmini.

Used? That too one tire?
Tires are one of the safety critical part in any vehicle and replacement as a set (of 4) is recommended always. If not settle for at least a pair. Single different tire MAY take you across several parts failure.

Ilangop 30th January 2015 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 429227)
My exhaust which is already having four to five leaks on pipe, is exhaling white smoke, somewhat like steam, very little while running and a lot of it when revved in neutral or clutch pressed. I guess it to be a faulty cylinder head gasket, can it be any other issue other than that?

The S1 has a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold and try to retain the same. Looks for an exhaust pipe of S1 only and retain the sweet roar of S1. Guess your sparkplugs have a coat of soot due the oil getting inside the combustions chamber. Could due to worn out valve stem seals or worn out piston rings. Faulty head gasket would let water mix in oil & you can find oil traces in radiator coolant. Please check both. Since S1 is a simple push rod engine & the engine is also less run, you can your friend can pull down the head and take it to a repair shop and get the seals redone. I think PP head doesn't have a rubber seal. And for changing the piston rings, go for standard size again. With the car jacked up & engine oil drained, remove the head and sump gasket. Unbolt the connecting rod from sump side and pull the piston + connecting from top side. replace the rings and drop them back in the same manner. Do this 1 cylinder after another. Before closing the head leave 2-3 spoons of engine oil inside the cylinder and put things back in place. This is an easy job for you. Using a slip gauge check the ring clearances as recommended by workshop manuals.

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 431639)
I bought a used Apollo Amazer 175 mm from a friend, for Rs. 500, hope it fits Padmini.

What is the tyre size? 175 profile will be hard to steer. Use them for the rear wheels instead.

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 428935)
We have a Gypsy Carburetor with us, unused, any possibilities of plonking it on the existing intake manifold. What Jets should I use for the carb if I use another carburetor?

No idea about the Gypsy carburetor. I think it is a side draught carburetor. Else you may try a Maruti zen carb with an adaptor. Attached are some pictures of my friend's S1 which has Zen carb adapted. He is happy with respect to starting, acceleration, though he hasn't tested top speed. Took him 3 hours to do the swap with all parts available with him. Fuel consumption with bottle turned out like 18kmpl, though I presume 15kmopl to be practical. He didn't go through any jet adjustments or changes. Just used the Zen carb as it is.

RVSB 31st January 2015 07:28 PM

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It was a glory of its time (though Amby was superior than it by every inch!).
I also remember that there is a Tamil Movie just about this car only, IIRC, its name is 'Pannaiyaarum Padminiyum'. It was one nice movie and the car had many auxiliary lamps and a Light Blu-ish Green colour in the last scene!

rahulmoshal 1st February 2015 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Boss (Post 431647)
Used? That too one tire?
Tires are one of the safety critical part in any vehicle and replacement as a set (of 4) is recommended always. If not settle for at least a pair. Single different tire MAY take you across several parts failure.

The tire is not much used and is in decent condition as I bought it from a close friend. It is most likely to be used as Spare Tyre once I get a new set.

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Originally Posted by Ilangop (Post 431666)
The S1 has a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold and try to retain the same. Looks for an exhaust pipe of S1 only and retain the sweet roar of S1. Guess your sparkplugs have a coat of soot due the oil getting inside the combustions chamber. Could due to worn out valve stem seals or worn out piston rings. Faulty head gasket would let water mix in oil & you can find oil traces in radiator coolant. Please check both. Since S1 is a simple push rod engine & the engine is also less run, you can your friend can pull down the head and take it to a repair shop and get the seals redone. I think PP head doesn't have a rubber seal. And for changing the piston rings, go for standard size again. With the car jacked up & engine oil drained, remove the head and sump gasket. Unbolt the connecting rod from sump side and pull the piston + connecting from top side. replace the rings and drop them back in the same manner. Do this 1 cylinder after another. Before closing the head leave 2-3 spoons of engine oil inside the cylinder and put things back in place. This is an easy job for you. Using a slip gauge check the ring clearances as recommended by workshop manuals.


What is the tyre size? 175 profile will be hard to steer. Use them for the rear wheels instead.



No idea about the Gypsy carburetor. I think it is a side draught carburetor. Else you may try a Maruti zen carb with an adaptor. Attached are some pictures of my friend's S1 which has Zen carb adapted. He is happy with respect to starting, acceleration, though he hasn't tested top speed. Took him 3 hours to do the swap with all parts available with him. Fuel consumption with bottle turned out like 18kmpl, though I presume 15kmopl to be practical. He didn't go through any jet adjustments or changes. Just used the Zen carb as it is.

Thankyou very very much sir, Pics are very helpful, Can I get the adapter directly from market or it should be custom made?
The 175/65 Tyre is currently used on rear wheel with factory fitted Tyre on opposite side, The car is usually parked most of the time. Will get proper upgrades once I get time as well as Vitamin 'M'. Again thanks a lot, your reply was very helpful.

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Originally Posted by RVSB (Post 431842)
It was a glory of its time (though Amby was superior than it by every inch!).
I also remember that there is a Tamil Movie just about this car only, IIRC, its name is 'Pannaiyaarum Padminiyum'. It was one nice movie and the car had many auxiliary lamps and a Light Blu-ish Green colour in the last scene!

Yeah, indeed it was. What I heard from my dad is it was kinda young guys car and Amy, the mature one.

Ilangop 2nd February 2015 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rahulmoshal (Post 431919)
Thankyou very very much sir, Pics are very helpful, Can I get the adapter directly from market or it should be custom made?

Most welcome. I got the adaptor made from a CNC machine shop near my residence. Paid Rs1300/- for the material + machining. The 6 studs might cost another Rs50/-. Can get you one made, the day you want to go the Mikuni way.

rahulmoshal 2nd February 2015 03:49 PM

Re: The 1986 Premier Padmini Deluxe
 
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Originally Posted by Ilangop (Post 431975)
Most welcome. I got the adaptor made from a CNC machine shop near my residence. Paid Rs1300/- for the material + machining. The 6 studs might cost another Rs50/-. Can get you one made, the day you want to go the Mikuni way.

Thanks again sir, I will contact you once I get the Carburetor from my friend. You are like encyclopedia for we noobs to automobiles. :)

rahulmoshal 21st March 2015 10:17 PM

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As of now , what we have done to car is as follows:
Tyres - 175/70R14 Rear and 165/80/R14 front
Alternator upgrade from the conventional Dyanmo.
Castrol GTX 20W50 engine oil.
Worked on the wiring and got almost 90% of the lights in working condition.
Rear brake hose replaced with OEM one.
Next thing we are planning is a DIY free flow exhaust. We would also be giving it a custom paintjob which would obviously be a DIY.
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Here are some pics of the car...
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Also I want to know if there is any way to unclog the greasing valves. They are filled with sludge all over.
Thanks in Advance,
Rahul Moshal

RVSB 22nd March 2015 02:29 PM

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Subscribed to this thread!
Waiting for more updates.
And try if you can paint the original Metallic Peacock Blue-green color. It will restore its own charm.

rahulmoshal 9th August 2015 11:43 AM

Re: The 1986 Premier Padmini Deluxe
 
Hi,
Due to very tight schedule of Mine I barely get to work on this car, I would soon be upgrading the carburetor though. Will post some more pics of the baby and the jobs done on it, completely DIY.

Varunvelavan 27th October 2015 06:52 AM

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Hey bro, great to see you guys choosing a classic.This thread reminds me of my dads ride. He owns a 137D ,Diesel from 1994. Its a beauty to look at, a chariot to drive. He occasionally allows me to ride his car, and man those are the best occasions. He has done around 3.5lakh kms with his car and wow these cars are built like a tank.


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