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TAUREAN CZAR 8th October 2017 07:06 PM

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Shows that TATA is a promising brand. Sales have jumped up and TIAGO has Trounced both CELERIO and IGNIS. If you look at TIAGO sales 30% are Diesel which Celerio looses. TATA has that advantage as Maruti's 2 Cylinder has bombed badly.

NEXON mainly are dealer dispatches. Some have been delivered to customers.

tdcarlover 8th October 2017 07:59 PM

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https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...2o-plus-406192
Autocar scoop says Nano EV is going to be the Tata competitor for E2O-great news
Curious to see the comments of M&M-in either case the govt pays less and we pay less tax [;)]
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/fo...2017/10/18.jpg

kasscon 8th October 2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jagrover (Post 550374)
It's amazing to see M&M MD Pawan Goenka commenting on the EESL tender in such a manner.

They lost the tender first hand. With the particular clause in the tender, they were allowed to supply cars at TML's pricing. They did that and won the tender to supply 150 cars. Then he commented as below:

M&M takes a dig at Tata Motors over EV contract | Business Line

Chairman praising TML and MD commenting like this.[sleep]

There are lots of points to consider in this contract and the size of the vehicle.

# Tata Tigor or Zest will be under 4 meter thus less GST and cost of the vehicle

# Bigger car means more battery power or maybe bigger motor required

# Tata will use the technical knowledge acquired from JLR and TMETC and we might say they might get better and affordable solution

# By using Tigor/Zest as a donor car Tata will be able to sell more cars in market than the outdated and sales dud Verito and can achieve economy of sales and required advertisement and brand value from this contract as most of the government officials will be using them.

There is one more point which I will let you know once I got the exact and proper details

Srigopaldaliya 9th October 2017 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by InsaneTurbo (Post 550550)
Incredible numbers by Tiago ! Nexon did 2772 in the first shipment !
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IIRC this is first time TaMo has sold more than 8K vehicles a month after their Indica/Indigo days.

vikyjoshi 9th October 2017 12:41 PM

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Tiago seems to be new best seller for Tata. in fact only those cars which are new launches are selling in 4 digits for tata eg Tiago, Tigor, Hexa and Nexon. (Zest being the anomaly) rest all the cars are doing 3 figure.

InsaneTurbo 9th October 2017 02:02 PM

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Actually Tata Motors is doing a great job with their new products ! Even in the recent times, earlier this year Indica & Indigos contributed about 3-5k per month , but now they are doing these higher growth figures relying on the newer exciting launches and thats impressive !

Another thing is that after the Tigor launch the Tiago is doing consistant higher numbers each month, which had been around 4-5K before !
Now Tiago and Tigor consolidated sales crossed 10K per month ! Thats an impressive turn around !

The UV sales leading by Hexa & Nexon will give Tata Motors the much needed push in the coming months !

kvraghav 9th October 2017 02:41 PM

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The i10 and Tiago has effectively dislodged Maruti in B segment Hatch backs.Cars like Celerio, Ignis are not doing as good as these two.

InsaneTurbo 9th October 2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kvraghav (Post 550614)
The i10 and Tiago has effectively dislodged Maruti in B segment Hatch backs.Cars like Celerio, Ignis are not doing as good as these two.

Add Kwid too at 9K !

jagrover 10th October 2017 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kasscon (Post 550564)
There are lots of points to consider in this contract and the size of the vehicle.

# Tata Tigor or Zest will be under 4 meter thus less GST and cost of the vehicle

# Bigger car means more battery power or maybe bigger motor required

# Tata will use the technical knowledge acquired from JLR and TMETC and we might say they might get better and affordable solution

# By using Tigor/Zest as a donor car Tata will be able to sell more cars in market than the outdated and sales dud Verito and can achieve economy of sales and required advertisement and brand value from this contract as most of the government officials will be using them.

There is one more point which I will let you know once I got the exact and proper details

All these points may be valid. My only concern is why M&M MD commented in such a way about the L1 bidder aka Tata Motors. No one prevented them from bidding with a sub 4 metre Verito. [:)]

Akash1886 12th October 2017 02:47 PM

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TAL Manufacturing Solutions expands its footprint in Northern Region Opens office in Gurgaon

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New Delhi, October 12, 2017: TAL Manufacturing Solutions, a subsidiary of Tata Motors, today, announced the launch of its new office in Gurgaon, to meet the growing demand from consumers in the North region. This office will further strengthen the reach of TAL Manufacturing Solutions in the Northern are and provide cost effective automation solutions.

Speaking at the launch, Mr Amit Bhingurde COO Tal Manufacturing Solution Limited, said, “India, today is a growing hub for technology and innovation and robotics play a critical role in today’s manufacturing and assembly operations. Therefore, with this development in time it is essential to address the growing demands of the market. The opening of our Gurgaon office, will enable us to reach out to a large chunk of our target audience and will also address the growing demands of the market especially catering to the Northern India.”

Recently TAL Manufacturing announced the launch of its indigenously developed, TAL BRABO Welding Robot and its Education Cell ‘Robo Whiz’. The TAL BRABO Welding Robot has been developed for welding operations with highly reliable features and ensures utmost safety of the workers. ‘Robo Whiz’, an education cell is designed for universities and polytechnics and will help students develop skills needed for effective use and management of Robotics and Automation technology.

About TAL BRABO

The TAL BRABO is the country’s first Indigenously developed, ‘Made in India’ solution, developed to cater to micro, small and medium enterprises, as well as for large scale manufacturers who require cost competitive automated solutions in manufacturing. The robot is available robot in 3 variants, with payloads of 2,6 and 10 kilos, priced between INR 5 – 8.5 lakhs.

Designed and styled in-house at TAL Manufacturing and Tata Elxsi respectively, Tata AutoComp manufactured some of the critical components of the robot. Conceptualized to complement human workforce and perform repetitive, high volume, dangerous and time-consuming tasks, the TAL BRABO robot, can be deployed across industries.

Having successfully tested the TAL BRABO in over 50 customer work streams so far, TAL Manufacturing is ready to supply these robots to several sectors including Automotive, Electronics, Software Testing, Plastics, Logistics, Education, Aerospace and Heavy Engineering among others, simplifying industrial manufacturing, improving quality and productivity.

About TAL Manufacturing Solutions Limited:

TAL Manufacturing Solutions Limited, a TATA Enterprise, is a wholly owned subsidiary of TATA Motors and is one of the leading companies in India, successfully delivering manufacturing solutions for over 40 years to customers in Automotive and Heavy Engineering and more recently, to Robotics, Aerospace and Defence sectors. Telco Automation Limited (TAL) was formed in 2000, by merging two mother divisions of TATA Motors – Machine Tools and Growth. The ones that designed and built the machines, equipment and automation requirements of TATA Motors, during its setup of manufacturing facilities. This model was followed by TATA Motors in the 1960’s and 70’s, to ensure lower cost of capital acquisition by minimizing imports of such machines and equipment and thereby build vehicles at prices that were affordable to Indian customers.
Regards

Akash

kasscon 12th October 2017 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jagrover (Post 550649)
All these points may be valid. My only concern is why M&M MD commented in such a way about the L1 bidder aka Tata Motors. No one prevented them from bidding with a sub 4 metre Verito. [:)]

Actually TML played a big game with lower cost of the vehicle maybe you can say like Jio strategy.

One the other hand Sub 4m Verito will require lot of RnD, design changes and added investment which they might not be able to recover from an outdated design and platform, after all it's an old logan platform which they got from Renault.
Even the design is not that great and was a market sales dud in all of its avatars.

Hope am able to answer your question

AbhisekVerma 12th October 2017 11:21 PM

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Motorbeam reader has spied the X451 premium hatchback which would go against i20 and Jazz. I didn't mention Baleno as I don't see anything premium in it except the price. :tongue:
https://www.motorbeam.com/tata-x451-...otted-on-test/

vikyjoshi 13th October 2017 06:53 PM

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Tata Motors is eyeing 12 new models in commercial vehicle (CV) and passenger vehicle segments over the next three years, reports CNBC-TV18. The company plans to launch six new cars over the next three years. These cars have been codenamed X-451, X-422, X-445, X-434, X-441 and X-442. Cars part of the pipeline include entry-level small car, mid-sized sedan and compact SUVs



Tata Motors eyes 12 new launches in CV, PV space over 3 yrs: Sources - Moneycontrol.com

InsaneTurbo 24th October 2017 01:05 PM

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Akash1886 24th October 2017 03:18 PM

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Tata Motors gears up to take the lead in manufacturing state-of-the-art commercial vehicles

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As market leaders in the Commercial Vehicles (CV) segment, Tata Motors has yet again taken the lead in shaping the Indian CV industry. The company posted a strong growth of 34 percent for the month of August 2017, and at 10,926 units, the M&HCV segment grew by 52 percent. The strong pick-up in demand is driven by continuously increasing acceptance of the SCR technology for better fuel-efficiency, and y stricter implementation of regulatory norms on overloading, as well as sector specific (Trucks and Construction Tippers) demand. The company focuses on designing a smart fleet of heavy trucks to enhance driver comfort and safety. As per the Safety Road Map, by Ministry of Road Transport the company made Anti-lock braking system (ABS) compulsory in all commercial vehicles of N3 & M3 category. The domestic CV sales continued growth momentum second month in a row after tepid Q1 of FY18.

Garuda Transport Pvt Ltd (GTP) based out of Korba in Chhattisgarh has 1500+ Medium and Heavy vehicles including trucks, mixers and tippers in its fleet. Operational all over India, specializing in mining, transportation & power generation, GTP forms an important and major source of opinion in Korba, Jhanjgir- Champa customers. With 65% of the its fleet comprising Tata Motors vehicles, Capt. Ashwin, Chief Financial Officer, Chhattisgarh, Garuda Transport Pvt. Ltd., shares his experience, “Tata Motors vehicles are much better than other vehicles. I have bought 75 units of 4923 SIGNA, and am very happy with its fuel efficiency and mileage. Where other vehicles breakdown in mining areas, Tata vehicles are reliable and sturdy. Tata Motors’ driver education camp on SCR technology is valuable as well.” He further adds that with a reliable and proven power train, Tata Motors vehicles offers its customers better productivity and lowest cost of operations, for a construction vehicle. Multiple options of aggregates combinations and load bodies make the vehicle a versatile workhorse for various applications.

Mr. R.T. Wasan, Head –Sales & Marketing, Commercial Vehicles, Tata Motors Ltd. commented, “Selling a vehicle does not end with sales, in-fact it starts with it. Many truckers have stories to share on how a single truck of TATA Motors transformed their lives for good, with several of them having got their next generation to join the business. Our value for customer relations makes us a learning organization, which is constantly evolving its services. Enabling key account customers to ease their business with one stop key accounts portal, exclusive multiple tiers emperor loyalty with many more partners to redeem the points, joint engagement, and involving them in the future product decisions, are some of the initiatives we have been carrying on, thereby strengthening the relationship.”

Huge investments in infrastructure and industry will surely offset any contraction in demand due to consolidation and free movements. At the aggregate level, industry will witness a boom post Sep’17 and the growth story should continue for the next 2-3 years. India is now moving towards rated load regime. This means that more trucks are required to carry similar loads and the cost/ ton/ km will go up. Manufacturers of commodities like steel, coal, cement have been stressing on lower freight rates. All this will lead to the migration from low tonnage points to higher tonnage point vehicles.

Tata Motors is all set with its 31Ton, 37Ton, 40Ton and 49Ton range in the M&HCV segment of fuel efficient offerings, and is actively working towards converting the existing transporters to higher tonnage vehicles so that the efficiencies can set in and road transportation remains competitive vis a vis rail or other modes.
Regards

Akash


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