No More New Diesel Engines?

[InsaneTurbo]

From the recent developments in the Indian Auto Industry, Its hinting that there would be no more new diesel engines for India from global mass players?

SCOOP! VW Group to discontinue 1.5 litre diesel by 2020

The VW Group’s 1.5-litre diesel engine will be yet another casualty of the stringent BS-VI emission norms that'll come into effect by April 1, 2020. Sources within the VW Group have confirmed that EA189 diesel will not be upgraded to BS-VI standards and hence production will stop with the implementation of the new norms.

Fiat’s 1.3 Multijet diesel to bow out by end of decade

Fiat’s ubiquitous 1.3-litre diesel engine will be discontinued in India with the incoming of new Bharat Stage VI (BS-VI) emission regulations in 2020, as there are no plans to upgrade the engine to comply with the new norms.

Auto industry gears up for government’s EV push

NEW DELHI, SEPT 11:
India's aggressive push to electrify all new vehicles by 2030 is compelling auto part manufacturers and carmakers to draw up early plans for electrification, company executives said. A new auto policy is in the works and will include a roadmap for electric vehicles, a government official said, adding that this is likely to be made public before year-end.

Engine-maker Cummins India is investing in research on electric mobility solutions for India, while Hyundai Motor Co has begun talks with some of its suppliers for components for electric cars, company executives said. Ashok Leyland, which launched an electric bus last year, has partnered with Indian start-up SUN Mobility to develop battery-swapping technology for cars, buses and trucks. “This is going to be a major challenge but it is one we have to embrace and not duck,” Anant Talaulicar, managing director, Cummins India said.

Hyundai Motors to Build EV Assembly Plant in India

Hyundai Motor Company is planning to set up an electric vehicle (EV) manufacturing plant in India in the latter half of 2018. The plant is expected to be a complete knock down (CKD) assembly plant.

The Indian government is planning to ban the sale of non-EVs by 2030. At the same time, it is going to build 1,000 EV charging stations in Delhi. Under the circumstances, a number of automakers are increasing their investment in the Indian EV market. For example, Tata Motors is preparing to release the Tiago EV and Mahindra & Mahindra is planning to invest US$94 million for EV development. Toyota and Suzuki are looking to build a lithium ion battery manufacturing plant in India, too.

In the new scenario I don't think MSIL would go further with their speculated 1.5 diesel engine for 2019 , it would be easier for them to use either the 1.5 D4D from Toyota-their new partner or the 1.5 RevoTorq from Tata Motors .

The Fiat Multijet 2.0, Tata Motors 1.5 RevoTorq and the Hyundai's would be last set of Diesel Engines we are going to enjoy it seems ! Sad .

 

[kkn13]

I hope this doesnt happen
Put more tax on diesels or something
subsidise on hybrid petrols and electrics

Dont give taxis and commercial vehicles fossil fuel engines or simply give them hybrids

 

[Vishwas]

Interesting and yes many manufacturers looks like they're going to shelve off bringing new diesel engines into existence and thinking about to save planet on taking up hybrid projects which seems good in books, however we are yet to ascertain how well will the change happen and our country especially depends mainly on fossil fuels.

In the new scenario I don't think MSIL would go further with their speculated 1.5 diesel engine for 2019 , it would be easier for them to use either the 1.5 D4D from Toyota-their new partner or the 1.5 RevoTorq from Tata Motors.

The Fiat Multijet 2.0, Tata Motors 1.5 RevoTorq and the Hyundai's would be last set of Diesel Engines we are going to enjoy it seems ! Sad .

Are you sure the Revotorq is BS VI compliant? Also the 1.5 revotorq is the new kid in the block and nobody's very sure it's made goodwill about it's debut yet! Same goes with M&M vehicles with successful models only running the Mhawk series etc.

Fiat and Toyota for sure is going to rule to roost and Fiat definitely moving it's Jeep brand more than Fiat itself.

Maruti being the cult in the industry, look like they're definitely going to bring in BS VI ready engine.

 

[navnit013]

Well, with the dhamki from a very powerful minister, auto manufacturers will have to move towards the vision. So diesels will be relegated to the heavy haul duty.

 

[acechip]

This is not so out-of-the-blue. Even Europe and China are having a hard look at fossil fuel for personal vehicles. So as one of the top-5 world markets, India does'nt want to be an outlier. I am particularly enthused about China doing this, it will give a huge spurt to cost effective storage systems( batteries). Perhaps we will see the Mobile/PC equivalent of a paradigm shift in personal transport.

 

[Vishwas]

Seems like we are very late to realize the fact of Electrocuted versions coming soon from manufacturers,

Read the news source from cartoq.com that Mahindra is all set for the new venture: (Link)

Actually I do support the fact that diesels should be primarily used for heavy haulage/commercial units which is more important than for personal usage, thanks to our government systems of complicated tax structure for people to take refuge on diesels.

When you think of a common man who has travel range of minimum of 50kms a day it absolutely makes no sense to maintain petrol bills and god bless what if the charge on the battery drains when he returns home from a day long of stressful work if he's forced to use EV.

I'm just thinking if what if these EVs are made mandatory in coming years and it has to climb steep hills the plight of the humans.

Maybe it's the government move to dissolve individual travelling, less pollution and to use public transport.

 

[kkn13]

1.3 MJD is Euro VI compliant but they wont bring it to India

 

[allhyundaicars]

3 years from now someone will update that the deadline has been pushed.
This is india. Don't believe anything Will be implemented here which will reduce the the tax revenue.
Even if they did they will do some adjustments ( recent 10% gst hike)

It's good to have a discussion but it's futile.

 

[GautamJ]

Are you sure the Revotorq is BS VI compliant?

There are few who says that Tiago (both engines) are BS-6 compliant. But can't conclude unless we have some solid scoop or Tata passes an official statement.

 

[navnit013]

What India needs to effectively achieve the goal is an efficient policy in implementation. Also there needs to be amendments in the law for electricity sale. The existing laws dont allow charging station set ups. (if i am right) The existing law doesnt allow me to sell electricity unless I am an electricity supply company (ESCOMs).

And for people with concern, a vehicle built on a dedicated EV platform will have a range in excess of 250-300 kms. So you need not worry about 50km round trip. And in 15 years time, EVs will double their range, with technological improvements in battery and the motors.

 

[InsaneTurbo]

Suzuki drops diesel from UK line-up as demand tumbles

Suzuki has become the latest car maker to drop all diesel models from its line-up as sales for black-pump cars continue to dwindle.

Last month, diesel sales in Britain fell by 37% compared with March 2017, meaning its decline is shrinking at more than twice the rate of the wider new car market.

Suzuki offered only one diesel engine, the Fiat-built 1.6-litre DDiS, with just two models – the Vitara and SX4 S-Cross. Diesel has long accounted for a small portion of Suzuki’s UK sales, but it now represents just 3% of the company's UK demand. A Suzuki spokesman said this tiny portion encouraged the brand to remove diesel options from sale.

Although this move is in line with the market preferences , the news broke out a new uncertainty regarding the rumoured upcoming in-house diesels from Suzuki . Fingers crossed.

 

[VISHNUCARCRAZY]

Any updates regarding Ford's engine blocks?

I think most manufacturers will be now shifting their focus onto building semi hybrid models-Like the technology by Maruti Suzuki(SHVS),and Mahindra Scorpio's (Micro Hybrid).
Also its high time that Engine technologies are to be updated in India ,with rise in Fuel prices ,a layman will always think now regarding FE.

Also Maruti Suzuki will launch its much awaited Suzuki Swift Sport (1.4L,with mild hybrid tech)by next year.

 

[ankathil.arjun]

There are few who says that Tiago (both engines) are BS-6 compliant. But can't conclude unless we have some solid scoop or Tata passes an official statement.

I don't think any of the Tata engines are BSVI. The first BSVI engine to come to India is the latest S Class which was unveiled by Mercedes this January. All other cars and engines that were available before that are BSIV. The Tata engines, on the Nexon and Tiago are BSIV, but can be upgraded to Euro VI with some modifications. The Fiat Multijet 1.3 which is often considered as the National engine, is again BSIV. The Fiat Multijet II 1.3, is Euro VI, however, the license Maruti has obtained for manufacturing the Fiat engine is only for the BSIV version. This was known to be one of the primary reasons for Maruti to start working on their in-house 1.5 Diesel engine, as they would again need to purchase the license for the Multijet II and they were expecting a higher licensing fee from Fiat.

 

[Volksjäger]

R. C. Bhargava, chairman of Maruti Suzuki, says that there wont be any Diesel engines in small cars.
I assume that cars under 10 lakh will not have any diesel engines by 2020 and they will be replaced by hybrids or BSVI petrols. As Diesel car buyers in this segment are shrinking year on year. So auto industry will not invest in R&D when sales of Diesel cars are very low in this segment. This is Another reason why there might be any diesels under 10 lakhs segment. Govt does a U-turn, proposes hybrid car subsidy in India

 

[Nairrk]

Maruti to phase out diesel models from April next year

The country's largest carmaker Maruti Suzuki India (MSI) will phase out all diesel cars from its portfolio with effect from April 1, 2020.

"From April 1, 2020 we will not be selling diesel cars," MSI Chairman RC Bhargava said.

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