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Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
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Wow, the grill looks more smart and its a resemblance of Mercedes A class. Hood in the bonnet will give more look.
Hi,
Wow, the grill looks more smart and its a resemblance of Mercedes A class. Hood in the bonnet will give more look.
Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
Lovely with heck of an engine. Fiat is suddenly changing to a company for car enthusiasts.
Lovely with heck of an engine. Fiat is suddenly changing to a company for car enthusiasts.
Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
Just another rehashed Punto with the heart of the avventura. Another did written all over. Why not get the aegea/tipo instead? Or plonk the 1.6 MJD into linea with the addition of some more features and space? Why Fiat why?
Just another rehashed Punto with the heart of the avventura. Another did written all over. Why not get the aegea/tipo instead? Or plonk the 1.6 MJD into linea with the addition of some more features and space? Why Fiat why?
Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
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FIAT has officially opened the booking for the upcoming Avventura Urban Cross. See here for more info.
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Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
Friends,
This is what the Urban Cross Avventura looks like! If it looks like this then I feel the concept shown at Auto Expo-2016 was way more impressive. It is so similar to Avventura. Why did'nt Fiat gave the headlamps shown in concept!![[roll]](https://www.theautomotiveindia.com/forums/images/smilies/Roll.gif "Roll Eyes [roll]")
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Friends,
This is what the Urban Cross Avventura looks like! If it looks like this then I feel the concept shown at Auto Expo-2016 was way more impressive. It is so similar to Avventura. Why did'nt Fiat gave the headlamps shown in concept!
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Akash
Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
I am little confuse over FIAT strategy on products for INDIA. FIAT has already big hatchback lineup i.e. Punto, Punto Evo, Avventura, Punto Abartha; still they want to add one more in that segment.
There are other segments to put effort into. FIAT India not yet had single car in MPV [against, Ertiga, Innova] and SUV[against Duster, XUV500] or a luxury Sedan [against Jetta, Octivia].
Although FIAT cars are strong and good to drive. They already have good segement lineup in Europe.
I am little confuse over FIAT strategy on products for INDIA. FIAT has already big hatchback lineup i.e. Punto, Punto Evo, Avventura, Punto Abartha; still they want to add one more in that segment.
There are other segments to put effort into. FIAT India not yet had single car in MPV [against, Ertiga, Innova] and SUV[against Duster, XUV500] or a luxury Sedan [against Jetta, Octivia].
Although FIAT cars are strong and good to drive. They already have good segement lineup in Europe.
Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
It more and more confusion for the punto buyer. I see only the enthusiasts would go for not so cheap punto brothers. The aventura, the abarth and now urban cross.
yes the mechanicals may be different but the interiors are the same, the shell is same, some sticker work here and there, some body claddings and you get a different punto. pardon my ignorance.
they should follow the renault route if they want to get numbers for them. produce a cheap car for indian market. (Well but being fiat i would expect the car to be safe too. not like the tincan kwid- Renault seem to be following suzuki and they have done well - sadly)
Coming back to the topic. I dont see much difference in this urbancross. I believed aventura was a cross based on punto. Urban cross is cross of aventura which is cross of punto. too much crossing here.
It more and more confusion for the punto buyer. I see only the enthusiasts would go for not so cheap punto brothers. The aventura, the abarth and now urban cross.
yes the mechanicals may be different but the interiors are the same, the shell is same, some sticker work here and there, some body claddings and you get a different punto. pardon my ignorance.
they should follow the renault route if they want to get numbers for them. produce a cheap car for indian market. (Well but being fiat i would expect the car to be safe too. not like the tincan kwid- Renault seem to be following suzuki and they have done well - sadly)
Coming back to the topic. I dont see much difference in this urbancross. I believed aventura was a cross based on punto. Urban cross is cross of aventura which is cross of punto. too much crossing here.
Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
I guess the Urban Cross should be seen as another trim of Avventura, even though for Fiat its a new car :D. For me the real bummer is that there is no Emotion Diesel variant on offer which means that the offered variants miss on airbags.
Leaving all the confusion aside, if you see from a buyer's perspective, Fiat actually has a lot of variants now, even though they are more or less similar:
1) Punto Evo powertech: No nonsense hatch with segment best ride+handling+steering+braking+GC+Build Quality(exterior) combo.
2) Punto Abarth: For an out and out enthusiast, that comes with a stiffer suspension, stands lower at 155 mm, has all disc brakes around.
3) Avventura: Compact SUV, has a GC of 205 mm, can do everything what an Ecosport can but still retains its fantastic cornering ability, Ecosport isnt bad either. A perfect vehicle for a Tier II cities where one doesnt have to touch the rear wheel setup everyday while going to malls, offices etc.
4) Avventura Abarth: Same as Avventura with a lot more horses under the hood.
5) Urban Cross: An alternative to Avventura that comes without the rear-wheel arrangement, something for which the Avventura was always bashed about, looks more muscular from rear, and has more consistent, less-rugged interioirs. The suspension has also been tweaked for a better city ride. So this looks like a Tier-I city focused Avventura.
5) Urban Cross Abarth: The Urban Cross with a lot more horses.
6) Fiat Linea: No nonsense C-segment sedan with segment best ride+handling+steering+braking+GC+Build Quality(exterior) combo.
7) Fiat Linea 125 PS: Fiat Linea with some more horses under the hood.
I feel that Fiat is buying time till they come up with the Jeep C-SUV or Punto/Linea replacement, but still for a buyer there are many options or many trim levels available like we have in the West.
I guess the Urban Cross should be seen as another trim of Avventura, even though for Fiat its a new car :D. For me the real bummer is that there is no Emotion Diesel variant on offer which means that the offered variants miss on airbags.
Leaving all the confusion aside, if you see from a buyer's perspective, Fiat actually has a lot of variants now, even though they are more or less similar:
1) Punto Evo powertech: No nonsense hatch with segment best ride+handling+steering+braking+GC+Build Quality(exterior) combo.
2) Punto Abarth: For an out and out enthusiast, that comes with a stiffer suspension, stands lower at 155 mm, has all disc brakes around.
3) Avventura: Compact SUV, has a GC of 205 mm, can do everything what an Ecosport can but still retains its fantastic cornering ability, Ecosport isnt bad either. A perfect vehicle for a Tier II cities where one doesnt have to touch the rear wheel setup everyday while going to malls, offices etc.
4) Avventura Abarth: Same as Avventura with a lot more horses under the hood.
5) Urban Cross: An alternative to Avventura that comes without the rear-wheel arrangement, something for which the Avventura was always bashed about, looks more muscular from rear, and has more consistent, less-rugged interioirs. The suspension has also been tweaked for a better city ride. So this looks like a Tier-I city focused Avventura.
5) Urban Cross Abarth: The Urban Cross with a lot more horses.
6) Fiat Linea: No nonsense C-segment sedan with segment best ride+handling+steering+braking+GC+Build Quality(exterior) combo.
7) Fiat Linea 125 PS: Fiat Linea with some more horses under the hood.
I feel that Fiat is buying time till they come up with the Jeep C-SUV or Punto/Linea replacement, but still for a buyer there are many options or many trim levels available like we have in the West.
Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
Fiat has no strategy for India, presently they are happy selling engines to other makers & why not they sell the engine & wash their hands off while the OEM maintains it & keeps it revving.
Coming back to your question, Fiat has a very capable line of cars, which would do very well in India, but their assessment of our market coupled to their arrogance is resulting in less than halfhearted attempts at establishing themselves here, let alone dominating segments, that said its no wonder why they are launching & relaunching old maids over & over again & that too lethargically, their dealer setup is not in place, their service setup stinks & Fiat is making no effort to correct any of these follies. They are displaying the classic European vanity here & expecting pleasant results
Fiat has no strategy for India, presently they are happy selling engines to other makers & why not they sell the engine & wash their hands off while the OEM maintains it & keeps it revving.
Coming back to your question, Fiat has a very capable line of cars, which would do very well in India, but their assessment of our market coupled to their arrogance is resulting in less than halfhearted attempts at establishing themselves here, let alone dominating segments, that said its no wonder why they are launching & relaunching old maids over & over again & that too lethargically, their dealer setup is not in place, their service setup stinks & Fiat is making no effort to correct any of these follies. They are displaying the classic European vanity here & expecting pleasant results
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It seems you haven't TD both. And comparing them just for the sake of ranting.
See, there is nothing to get confused, They haven't learnt a simple gimmick here, we Indians have habit of accepting old wine in new bottle or same bottle with new label. Ideally they should not have retained the name Punto for e Punto, Abarth. Those who have TD e Punto, Avventura MJD, Abarth punto, Abarth Avventura have lot of difference in between them.
Anyways, we don't mind Toyota having Etios liva, Etios cross, Etios sedan with similar names under same roof.
We won't criticise VW & Skoda for the presence of Polo, Vento, Rapid because names are different.
I won't name MSIL here, because they know how to sell old wine with new label & are major source of revenue for fiats. Just look at the MSIL sales figures.
Agreed, they should rather open contest for the auto enthusiasts to suggest a new name while launching a product.
For eg. MSIL brought a new car with different exteriors, interiors & same enginenamed 'Ciaz' but didn't named it 'New SX4' just like Fiats labelled their latest sedan 'new Linea' (new interiors, new exteriors, same engine) after its earlier sedan 'Linea '.
At present, their strategies are
1) sell engines
2) to provide driving pleasure to the people who want driving pleasure and not mere engine.
Because they might be passionate to provide cars to safety & driving pleasure concerned small class of people.
Which service set up you visited of late?
Are you sure, they are not making any efforts to correct these follies?
It seems you haven't TD both. And comparing them just for the sake of ranting.
See, there is nothing to get confused, They haven't learnt a simple gimmick here, we Indians have habit of accepting old wine in new bottle or same bottle with new label. Ideally they should not have retained the name Punto for e Punto, Abarth. Those who have TD e Punto, Avventura MJD, Abarth punto, Abarth Avventura have lot of difference in between them.
Anyways, we don't mind Toyota having Etios liva, Etios cross, Etios sedan with similar names under same roof.
We won't criticise VW & Skoda for the presence of Polo, Vento, Rapid because names are different.
I won't name MSIL here, because they know how to sell old wine with new label & are major source of revenue for fiats. Just look at the MSIL sales figures.
Agreed, they should rather open contest for the auto enthusiasts to suggest a new name while launching a product.
For eg. MSIL brought a new car with different exteriors, interiors & same enginenamed 'Ciaz' but didn't named it 'New SX4' just like Fiats labelled their latest sedan 'new Linea' (new interiors, new exteriors, same engine) after its earlier sedan 'Linea '.
At present, their strategies are
1) sell engines
2) to provide driving pleasure to the people who want driving pleasure and not mere engine.
Because they might be passionate to provide cars to safety & driving pleasure concerned small class of people.
Which service set up you visited of late?
Are you sure, they are not making any efforts to correct these follies?
Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
@Tornado, Comparison of Fiat to other brands like MSIL/VW isnt useful because Fiat does not enjoy that reputation or brand value. But purely speaking from product perspective, I would have been happier if Fiat had given a slightly different body look (sheet metal), and a different engine (particularly diesel), that would have been a good statement of its future commitment to India. Also, bring all-round airbags, just to re-affirm their safe credentials. It would have been a great statement to make like " You know our cars have a tank-like build. But we would like to keep you absolutely safe by having all round airbags".
@Tornado, Comparison of Fiat to other brands like MSIL/VW isnt useful because Fiat does not enjoy that reputation or brand value. But purely speaking from product perspective, I would have been happier if Fiat had given a slightly different body look (sheet metal), and a different engine (particularly diesel), that would have been a good statement of its future commitment to India. Also, bring all-round airbags, just to re-affirm their safe credentials. It would have been a great statement to make like " You know our cars have a tank-like build. But we would like to keep you absolutely safe by having all round airbags".
Re: Fiat Avventura Urban Cross Launching in 2016
@acechip, fully agree with you.
This launch of urban Avventura might be result of customers feedback who said that they didn't liked the grill or the rear mounted spare wheel.
@acechip, fully agree with you.
This launch of urban Avventura might be result of customers feedback who said that they didn't liked the grill or the rear mounted spare wheel.