The Urban Flavour: Ford Ecosport vs Renault Duster

[MSN1]

Dear Ford sorry God,

Please give us a new car with all safety futures even the rolling cage and so on but the price should be with in 4 lakhs

inside the car should be big like volvo bus, but
on out side it should be smaller enough to park inside a 4 meters veranda

should have 300 mm ground clearance along with super stability and road grip

it should have 20000 cc 18 valve powerful engine and should give 200 kmpl mileage

Headlamp should be as powerful than lighthouse, and it should be led

one who always want to have a better car wont get satisfied with any car, one who knows well about his car and happy with it will always rev miles happily

everywhere we have people to topple even the safest car in the world.

once called as "Titanic the unsinkable ship" sinks with in days from its first journey

even the cheapest car is safest car if it was driven by the right person

[Indian]

Originally Posted by IndicaDLS2002

Some facts about ES variants one should know:

Ambiente & Trend variants with absolutely no safety features i.e no airbags & the rest of the safety stuff, these are also minus the alloy wheels & the price range is 7L - 9.5L onroad!

If I understand right these above two models will off the list for most people! People would rather go with the any of the umpteen number of good hatchbacks readily available at half the price!

Titanium, T+ & ecoboost the ES top end variants with all the bells & whistles range from 9.75L - 12L onroad! But keep in mind this is a smaller sub 4 metre segment car! so its a mini-SUV not a real SUV!

If I understand right Duster variants are priced about 10-15% more than these. So is its size & power more.

Now if you consider price also taking into consideration the size & power as well, I fail to understand how the Ecosport is any better economically than the Duster. If Duster can be called a "ripoff" by many, then I am not sure why ES won't get that same label eventually due to the above facts!

The right prices for the ES models to set the market on fire would be base variants between 6.5L-8L & top end variants between 8L-9.5L which will really sound like a good deal to the ever price conscious Indian customer !

Looks like you have missed some points.

• Let me compare something what I am interested in, Ecosport Diesel Titanium and Duster 85 PS with option, Ecosport 11.3 L and Duster 13.85 L (in KA) You will miss all the gadgetry, Additional 4 airbags. What you get is extra trunk space. Please read that Ecosport has more knee room than Duster.
• You are talking about Ambinet and trend does not have safety, tell me if Duster has any airbags until you go with the option pack? including the top end variant?
• Below 4 meters its not a drawback of Ecosport, its a plus point for me. Kudos for Ford for packing more passenger space that Duster.
• If you are calculating the value of car by the volume of the car then I think I will not be able convince you, then a bus with lot of seats and luggage space and power will be ideal for everyone.
• You called it as 'Suv' but I call it a 'Crossover' so is Duster.
• Dusters petrol variant, have you seen one on the road, check out how many petrols booked on Ecosport, 50/50 in comparison to diesel counterpart in our own TAI.
• Can you please update me with the list of other hatchbacks available which according to you are better bet at half the price of Ecosport?

But in the end I think you are entitled for your own assessment.

[Raja]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Akash

I have voted for the Renault Duster. The only reason being the 110PS engine on offer, which justifies the SUV tagof the vehicle and at the same time delivers excellent fuel efficiency

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Bro good to see you here , although I respect your opinion and at the same time disagree with quite a few of them .

Today itself i and my 3 childhood friends went for a long drive outside Mumbai for a lunch in a duster ( one of them owns a duster since may ) .

The duster completely wins over the ecosport when it comes to ride quality , boot space and rear shoulder width and space again later point is not by a huge margin and IMHO the comparison ends there .

Right from the door handles, paint quality , the sheet metal used on doors , interior , quality, safety , gadgetry is much superior in ES relatively compared to the duster .

The duster had 3* safety rating , and the ES has 4 * .

To put correctly ES worldwide will be sold as a mini urban crossover for compact families . And the duster to be honest is a bolero of Europe .

The 110 engine option has pronounced turbo lag and the power can only be unleashed on the highways , the fuel economy is also not that astounding my friend gets 12-13 in city and 16-17 on highways ( only if driven in the range of 90-110 Km/h ) .

It is the 85 ps version which has less lag and excellent fuel economy but then ES betters the 85ps in mileage and power too .

A practical 5 seater. I am sure most of the people would disagree by saying that when one can get a full fledged SUV at that price why go for a Duster, but then with a Duster, you get the ease of parking, and zig zagging through the traffic and last but not the least the fuel efficiency. And with the 4X4, i am sure the Duster would do wonders.

My friend paid 13.10 lakhs for a 110 rxl version it dosent come with alloys forget airbags and abs . Like I said 110 ps and its turbo lag makes the duster a chore at times to drive in city traffic like Mumbai and banglore .

The top end version with 2 airbags and abs comes close to 14 ( kindly correct if iam wrong ) it is a complete ripoff . As much as I love the duster , what it provides for the price asked there is simply no justification IMHO .

Again zigzagging is not very easy in the duster due to huge front wheel arches which are prone to get scratched , I have seen many duster 's getting scratched badly at that particular area .

Plus dont forget the ES comes with 2 petrol options , and automatic option too ( the at box again being a very advance dual clutch one ) which again fulfills the demand of consumers who travel less per month or simply need a petrol or a automatic option in a mini SUV .

We had Scorpio , safari , storme , in 4x4 version none did any wonders . There is a very very limited crowd who gets involved in off roading , and the ones who get seriously involved are busy with their jeeps , thars and gypsy because along with enjoying their sport they want too enjoy relatively low maintainence too.
So keeping this view in mind I don't think duster 4x4 can do wonders since the price too will be increased which will make the already overly expensive duster even more expensive .

In ride + handling combo the duster wins over the ES completely , but in rest of the parameters duster loses and that too by a huge margin IMHO .

Originally Posted by Bopanna

The Hyundai HB20x in particular needs a redesign for Indian market. A much more macho look and an aggressive stance is needed to compete with Duster/Ecosport.

Ecosport has shown that even if the xover is small in size, an aggressive styling will make it more likely to be accepted as a mini-SUV. Otherwise, HB20x will find it hard to compete with premium hatches here.

+100 true .

The Hyundai thing looks too girly , cute and fragile . Iam sure they will bring a better design.

Originally Posted by MSN1

Dear Ford sorry God,

Please give us a new car with all safety futures even the rolling cage and so on but the price should be with in 4 lakhs

inside the car should be big like volvo bus, but
on out side it should be smaller enough to park inside a 4 meters veranda

should have 300 mm ground clearance along with super stability and road grip

it should have 20000 cc 18 valve powerful engine and should give 200 kmpl mileage

Headlamp should be as powerful than lighthouse, and it should be led

one who always want to have a better car wont get satisfied with any car, one who knows well about his car and happy with it will always rev miles happily

everywhere we have people to topple even the safest car in the world.

once called as "Titanic the unsinkable ship" sinks with in days from its first journey

even the cheapest car is safest car if it was driven by the right person

+1000 classic post madhu

[THE XOVER]

Ecosport vs Duster by motorbeam:

Ford EcoSport vs Renault Duster - Compact SUV Battle - YouTube

[MSN1]

Ecosport euphoria Effect @ MM camp

Discounts of Rs 44,000 on Mahindra Quanto; EcoSport Effect? | MotorBash.com

[type-r]

the moment I arrived in India, i saw couple of Dusters. Looked really impressive but then today I saw 2 ecosports... ufff.. mind blown.

[MSN1]

Another relevant to this thread comparo by motorbash.com

interesting to read

check url:

Ford EcoSport Versus Renault Duster;Specs,Pics,Details,Price | MotorBash.com

Ford EcoSport Versus Renault Duster;Specs,Pics,Details,Price | MotorBash.com

[THE XOVER]

Ecosport vs Duster by Autocar:

Ford EcoSport Vs Renault Duster | Comparison Test | Autocar India - YouTube

[IndicaDLS2002]

2012 Ford EcoSport | Comprehensive Review | Autocar India - YouTube

[MSN1]

source :- https://www.facebook.com/pages/Renau...46077958738057

Renault Disaster - Not Duster ( SAY NO TO RENAULT )
Dear Friends, I would like to share my recent and disastrous experience with Renault India, My newly bought Duster met with an accident on 21st March' 2013 and had gone for repair to authorized service centre - Divine Auto Tech (Renault Delhi West), on the very day. Since then its been close to 4 and half months and I have been following it up endlessly but always getting the same reply "YOUR VEHICLE IS UNDER REPAIR AND DUE TO UNAVAILABILITY OF PARTS WE ARE UNABLE TO DELIVER ATLEAST THIS WEEK". I have mailed my complaint to many senior authorities including MD India and other reputed official via mail as well as telecons, but there is no revert.

I am still paying my EMIs (for the vehicle I don't even have with me). This whole incident has caused me financial and mental harassment, hence I suggest each one of you to NOT trust any of the Renault after sale service and learn from my mistake. Think twice before you buy a Renault car.
Please share and like this page to spread the word.
Adeel Khan

[IndicaDLS2002]

Originally Posted by MSN1

Think twice before you buy a Renault car.
Please share and like this page to spread the word.
Adeel Khan

May be you should also add "instead please buy a Tata or M&M" to avoid the suspicion that Ford "might" have planted this story!

[MSN1]

Originally Posted by IndicaDLS2002

May be you should also add "instead please buy a Tata or M&M" to avoid the suspicion that Ford "might" have planted this story!

do you have a reason on why i should recommend tata or M&M ahead of Honda or Toyota or Hyundai brands

am not working for ford, but Chevrolet is one of my US client

spare availability woes are one well known to those who own a duster

[jagrover]

Interior space, boot space,airy feel.. Apart from these things Ecosport is having a clear advantage over Duster..!! Now what about the diesel engines...??

[tusharg]

Originally Posted by MSN1

source :- https://www.facebook.com/pages/Renau...46077958738057

Renault Disaster - Not Duster ( SAY NO TO RENAULT )
Dear Friends, I would like to share my recent and disastrous experience with Renault India, My newly bought Duster met with an accident on 21st March' 2013 and had gone for repair to authorized service centre - Divine Auto Tech (Renault Delhi West), on the very day. Since then its been close to 4 and half months and I have been following it up endlessly but always getting the same reply "YOUR VEHICLE IS UNDER REPAIR AND DUE TO UNAVAILABILITY OF PARTS WE ARE UNABLE TO DELIVER ATLEAST THIS WEEK". I have mailed my complaint to many senior authorities including MD India and other reputed official via mail as well as telecons, but there is no revert.

I am still paying my EMIs (for the vehicle I don't even have with me). This whole incident has caused me financial and mental harassment, hence I suggest each one of you to NOT trust any of the Renault after sale service and learn from my mistake. Think twice before you buy a Renault car.
Please share and like this page to spread the word.
Adeel Khan

I think you should go to consumer court. If its more then 4 months you may get entire money back! Put the case in such a way in court that Renault is able to sell cars not able to support them.

[tusharg]

Btw: Renault Petrol Duster is only on paper. Atlease was on paper for 1st year. My 2 friends books Renault Petrol Duster and received back money from dealer after 4 months as the dealer was unable to deliver Petrol Duster! Dealer said we just have 5 bookings of petrol duster and due to low demand of petrol duster company has deceived not to assemble and distribute petrol dusters!