Looking To Buy a Petrol Hatchback (Rs.6.5 Lakh)

amargawade90 · 9th March 2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rightnow

If swift is ugliest car, i20 is a boat, brio is shitworthy, then it would really be interesting to know what your 'personal opinion' decides as final car.

Anyways, have you test driven polo yet? While you do, inquire about Polo petrol 1.2 and 1.6 too about discount on 2011 models.

IMO , POLO is good car but not at all VFM.....No basic features Mannn

Even small cars having ACC , steering control etc features ...

basis · 9th March 2012, 01:19 AM

Hello amargawade90,

You are correct. In case of Punto 1.4 I am ready to wait till Dec 2012 offer!

For Jazz except looks (a mini Inova

) , maintenance cost, and low GC I donot have any other issues.

And any comment on Skoda Fabia 1.6/1.2 ?

One more point > I am planning for long team ownership. So resale values matters les for me.

@Rightnow, sorry if my thought hits you.

But my analysis is very independent.

No polo please.. A overpriced and crampy car.

amargawade90 · 9th March 2012, 01:30 AM

@Basic : Polo and Fabia both are same ( Engine).....and both are expensive to maintaine/service.
I will strongly reccomanded to u looks at Only Jazz and Punto only !!
Jazz only have one problem.u needs to service at every 6 months ...so maintance cost littile increase compare to punto !!
OT : Even We also deciding to buy Punto 1.4 on Diwali( for Discounts) , but we will confirm after saw/TD Jazz only. as here dealer dont have TD and display vehicle at showroom....so final decision will make at May after display Model comes !!

basis · 9th March 2012, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by amargawade90

@Basic: For Petrol Hatchback , Only Two Option Left for U !!( Swift is out , as u dont like it)

1. Punto1.4
2. Jazz

Punto 1.4 is little priced.....for More discount U needs to wait till Dasara/Diwali or For best Discount-wait till Year-End offers !!
whereas Jazz 's Booking is closed now , but My dealer said , Its will open on May !! But u dont get any discount on Jazz ( as they already reduce price of it)

Now choice is Ur's , Which CAR u required??
Grande Punto : Who have strong built , Best steering wheel and Handling in its segment , Best Features , but less Leg space for rear.
Jazz: "HONDA "Badge , Best rear space and Boot space in its segment and Features wise Good ( Not Best) and i can not comment on Handling or steering wheel ( as i not TD jazz yet , but TD City, IMO steering should be same in both jazz and city)(CITY's steering is quite good not bad at all ( i checked till 100 kmph) but can not defeat Punto at all , in steering wheel and handling !!
Best Of luck mate.....

I will be ok with any of these two as long as the maintenance cost is low and the car should not hit the ground at any point of time.

basis · 9th March 2012, 01:34 AM

Hello amargawade90,

Yes, you are right. Both these VW cars (in India) costly to maintain.

Seems we both are same boat brothers!

Yes, I will also take Jazz TD first. Then will decide!

amargawade90 · 9th March 2012, 01:39 AM

For Td of jazz , U must needs to wait till May !! as they clearing Back-Log of Jazz within 2 months !!
R u TD punto 1.4 ?? Here dealer dont have punto 1.4, therfor I TD Punto 1.2 and MJD !!

basis · 9th March 2012, 01:42 AM

waiting is not at all a issue for me.

I never took TD of any Punto petrol. Will take offcourse.

amargawade90 · 9th March 2012, 01:48 AM

For Ur reference...Please read My TD report ( CITY TD report not included)
http://www.theautomotiveindia.com/fo...tml#post137204

basis · 9th March 2012, 09:46 AM

Hello amargawade90,

I have checked your review. I echo the same. nice to read.

amargawade90 · 9th March 2012, 10:00 AM

Thanksss for Comment !!

Jazzy · 9th March 2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by basis

Dear Friends,

When I see a lot of response on my question I feel proude to be a part of this forum.

Well, coming to the point;

What I need :

A hatchback car for my family of 3 (for 2 weeks of a year it may go upto 6)
which is;

1> Safe ( fundamentally very well build and not only based on some airbags),
2> Price : 6.5 L onroad (Bangalore) max.
3> Low TCO on long run (low maintenance cost)
4> mileage : more is better

5> Good engine , GC should not be an issue
6> Boot space : 270L +
7> As I will drive only on the week-ends and once in a month long-drive (incl. Ghat area) so most of the time car will be idel. So do not want to buy a Diesel Car. (Though I LOVE Punto 1.3 2012 Dynamic)
8> Smooth Riding, enough space. spl. on back seat.

Okay now between punto & jazz if I examine your parameters point by point, here goes:
1> Punto is heavier & more sturdy than a Jazz
2> price wise both jazz &punto 1.4 are expensive but its your call
3> Maintainance wise Honda is expensive, service every 3 months. Im sure punto owners here can throw light on its maintainance cost which I'm sure is also not cheap
4>Mielage jazz is way ahead, eyes closed, I get 13+ in city & avg18 on highway
5> Engine again jazz is leagues ahead (and Im not being biased here) but yes GC is a major issue in jazz
6> Jazz has the biggest boot, period- 316L, with magic seats in the rear for added flexibility
7> both cars ok for your level of usage
8> Again space wise jazz is leagues ahead of not just punto but all hatchbacks. trust me, we are a family of 6footers & we are comfy in the backseat. But yes, the ride is a little stiff but as you go faster it smoothens out as with all hondas. Punto will probably take potholes better.

So as you see, the pointers are titlted in Jazzs favour, but from what I gather you like puntos looks & looks does matter a lot because you have to live with it for a long time. but as far as resale is concerned, Honda will again fetch you much more than a fiat anyday....

cheers
jazzy

Rightnow · 9th March 2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by basis

Hello amargawade90,

You are correct. In case of Punto 1.4 I am ready to wait till Dec 2012 offer!

For Jazz except looks (a mini Inova

) , maintenance cost, and low GC I donot have any other issues.

And any comment on Skoda Fabia 1.6/1.2 ?

One more point > I am planning for long team ownership. So resale values matters les for me.

@Rightnow, sorry if my thought hits you.

But my analysis is very independent.

No polo please.. A overpriced and crampy car.

Well I respect your independent decision.
You seem to be pretty patient in deciding the final car. Why not take a test drive and see how polo feels, while you come across any VW showroom.

Best of luck for hunt.

akhilgopalg · 9th March 2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by basis

What I need :

A hatchback car for my family of 3 (for 2 weeks of a year it may go upto 6)
which is;

1> Safe ( fundamentally very well build and not only based on some airbags),
2> Price : 6.5 L onroad (Bangalore) max.
3> Low TCO on long run (low maintenance cost)
4> mileage : more is better
5> Good engine , GC should not be an issue
6> Boot space : 270L +
7> As I will drive only on the week-ends and once in a month long-drive (incl. Ghat area) so most of the time car will be idel. So do not want to buy a Diesel Car. (Though I LOVE Punto 1.3 2012 Dynamic)
8> Smooth Riding, enough space. spl. on back seat.

I will never go for a Race so normal pick-up,rev etc. is acceptable for me.

About myself : I am not a car expert, even I am a very novice driver. But took a lot TD and research (as I do before investing on any product...as it is my hard owned money after all.)

* I never got a chanch for Jazz , skoda 1.2 and Punto petrol TD.

My findings:

1> The best build cars are, Punto, Polo, Skoda. (all same level)
2> Best interior : Honda Jazz
3> Best Looks : Punto
4> Best Petrol Motor : Jazz 1.2
5> Best Diesel Motor : Fiat 1.3 MJD
6> Best In-Out : Punto
7> Best Space : Jazz, Skoda, Punto

My TD feeling on some cars :
I purposefully take the cars on bad to very bad roads.
Brio : Very bad riding, no Boot space, In-out...****...only good thing is interior..great.
Punto 1.3 : I feel in Love with it. ( But again I need a petrol car only)
Skoda 1.6: I Love it again. but donot want to buy as come to know the very high TCO and very poor ASS.
I10: Good but low boot space and tall boy look ...I donot like.
i20 : Am I riding in a BOAT???????
Micra : No time to spent on it....
Figo: Not taken a TD but got very poor feedback. It is a car for Poor Indians from Ford. How we suddendy forgot the Ford cars TCO always high??????
Swift : Ugliest car in world?
New Dzire : Like the interior and riding. but no ABS in the mid petrol version.
* Donot know why many Indians thing "HONDA" makes the Best ever cars..Jazzzzzz ? any logic plz.
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Sorry, if I have been hard on my words. I just thought someone just brainwashed you, i mean, there are some people who hates some brands for some reasons. One of my bestfriends is a hardcore Hyundai fan and he points out only the negatives of other brands. So, thought someone said some stories like that to you.

Btw, I am not a hardcore Jazz fanatic. I too would go for Punto MJD 90, if the diesel car duties wont get hiked.

Coming to your options, I wouldnt suggest you to go for Fabia. As far as i have heard, their A.S.S. is very bad. I do accept that they are build to perfection and quailty is a class apart. Polo is better than Fabia IMO. But, since you dont like polo, both the germans are out. Again Since you said you arent a racer , you dont need 1.6L too. The 3-pot noisy 1.2L in Polo and fabia is not upto the expectations.

So, you can opt for Punto or Jazz. Punto has excellent ride quality and handling and makes it one the hottest hatches in the country. Jazz has ground-clearance issues . So, a proper TD can only help you. Enquire in the Honda dealer , if they have old Jazz, since its mechanically similar. I did TD in the old jazz, which belongs to the GM of the showroom.It had clocked 56K and still there were no rattlings or problems in the car. Just loved it. If you like the Dzire, you should have liked the swift. Swift suits most of your requirements, except boot space and space at rear.

nithin_v · 9th March 2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazzy

Okay now between punto & jazz if I examine your parameters point by point, here goes:
3> Maintainance wise Honda is expensive, service every 3 months. Im sure punto owners here can throw light on its maintainance cost which I'm sure is also not cheap
4>Mielage jazz is way ahead, eyes closed, I get 13+ in city & avg18 on highway
5> Engine again jazz is leagues ahead (and Im not being biased here) but yes GC is a major issue in jazz
jazzy

The spare parts price of Punto is comparable to Maruti.
Mileage : Punto 1.4 : city : 12.8 / high way :15.5 (highway) (odo reading : 2100). There are person who extracts 19+ in punto 1.4 (By their ownership reports)
Engine : Can you please explain the reasons which make you feel it when you test drove Punto

Jazzy · 9th March 2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nithin_v

The spare parts price of Punto is comparable to Maruti.
Mileage : Punto 1.4 : city : 12.8 / high way :15.5 (highway) (odo reading : 2100). There are person who extracts 19+ in punto 1.4 (By their ownership reports)
Engine : Can you please explain the reasons which make you feel it when you test drove Punto

Nithin,
My opinions on both cars stated above was very neutral wherein Iv clearly mentioned him to go for Punto on some parameters. But from your retort it is apparent that you are a die hard Fiat-ian if I may say so, hence I wouldnt like to get into a debate with you on Fiat vs Honda.

Jazzy