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Begining this thread with excitement, First the basics, I have currently two three cars at my family disposal. Will add a few pics here to explain which one I want to replace.
This is a 2002 ZEN MPFI Vxi vehicle, It is always serviced with local MASS. The only change in the vehicle is the Stereo. The original was a Kenwood cassette player, Just replaced it with a JVC one at the time (with USB/AUX and bluetooth module it was state-of-the art at the time, A pair of JVC recommended speakers were added to the stock front speakers in the original ZEn, nothing big, Car is stock for every practical purpose
after 16 years and about 105k kms it is looking like this now, I think I did keep her well, see the attached pics
Now the hunt starts, The issue now is lack of spares with MASS, Dont like to go to market to buy an accelerator cable or shocks, They are all available, But I'am a lazy person for all this parts hunting stuff. SO the look for a replacement
Requirements are pretty clear, I'am nearing 50 yrs. Driving for the last many years got Dl in 1986 and with over 3 or 4 lakh kms driving throughout INdia (My most favourite adventure was a Mumbai-Kerala drive when I was in college) Well at the time Mumbai-pune-Kolhapur-Hubli-Sirsi-Kumta- Manglore-cochin took me a good 30-32 odd hours, The best being the ghat sections near sirsi in july-august, rain makes the place a real adventure at night....
Now I'am more subtle and settled, and I need the following
Must Have
1. Reasonably Priced
2. Driver seat height adjust
3. ABS that is a real good thing to have
4. Rear washer and wiper
5. Reverse camera. (nothing more safe than to see if those kids are playing behind in my blind spot)
6. Day night IRVM
7. Fog lamps (not driving lamps, The real yellow ones too use in fog)
8. Diesel, (Torque at low-mid range is what you need on Indian roads, Of course you always pollute less when you burn less fuel too and also the $$saving and higher resale)
Preferred requirements-nice to have (when two models provide the above)
1. An automatic (getting old)
2. rear defogger
3. Automatic irvm day night
4. Parking assist sensor (well some noise is good)
5.Navigation (hmmm some-what my phone does that too anyway)
6.Steering wheel controls for volume track phone.
Nuisance-means you have to buy these if you want to get what you need
companies decide what is best for you , so they can make merry of your misfortune, some are somewhat useful too, well just in case
Projector lamps, Airbags (this is the most feared thing in cars for me, because of their history), Alloy wheels (costly showoff), DRL (hehe),
Well looked the following, and fixed a budget of Rs. 10 lakhs on road maximum
1. Hyundai i10 AT , No more driver seat height adjust in automatic, You get all the surplus in Hyundai's factory, DRL, Alloys and all stuff. cost on road 7.63
2. TATA Tigor, This is perhaps the best car in the segment made today, Petrol and diesel both are a turn off on paper. Yet to get a test drive. All TATA does is send text messages and some Gentlemen and Ladies calling and asking to book. No one knows when a TD will be given...
3. IGNIS. Excellent if I can convince my son to accept the looks, But he does not want it, Even I think the persons who designed the front may be smoking too much weed. No offence intended!!, But the thing is good, It has everything. period. maybe it is going to be it!! by the way things are moving. Maybe a couple of smaller diameter round twin headlights or a pop up healamp like the old celica GT, would have made it awesome.
4.Tiago XZA, well it has most stuff, Even a driving assist, (wont accept it as automatic, that is the real thing but reasonable and excellent solution for an otherwise complex problem)A mapmyindia smart mirror thing could make it my choice, again TATA wont let me drive it lol....no vehicle available.
So tried the Ford figo AT, not as smooth as Hyundais torque converter, and more moody and unpredictable, than my better half when you leave the clutch, otherwise works ok. And a good nice driving position. Call it feedback or whatever I dont like the way Figo wrestles me when I turn it at speed. May be good for racing or something, Well have to say the nose goes where I want it to very quickly, but the rear is a little twitchy if you apply left and right too fast.
Now Honda has promised me an awesome deal with exchange for their BRIO. Maybe that AT will do, Have to plonk a camera into it, But going by what i see on internet options for replacing sock ICE with good ones are available, Have to find out if there is space for speakers at rear.
Also if I'am missing anything please advice, I'am approaching this with a very open mind. I can say Hyundai guys who bought the TD does not have any idea as to what the various boxes which I see in the engine bay are for, I had to close inspect to find out one was a fuse box, just behind the battery, There is another vertically mounted stuff behind hat which no one seems to know what for?
This is a 2002 ZEN MPFI Vxi vehicle, It is always serviced with local MASS. The only change in the vehicle is the Stereo. The original was a Kenwood cassette player, Just replaced it with a JVC one at the time (with USB/AUX and bluetooth module it was state-of-the art at the time, A pair of JVC recommended speakers were added to the stock front speakers in the original ZEn, nothing big, Car is stock for every practical purpose
after 16 years and about 105k kms it is looking like this now, I think I did keep her well, see the attached pics
Now the hunt starts, The issue now is lack of spares with MASS, Dont like to go to market to buy an accelerator cable or shocks, They are all available, But I'am a lazy person for all this parts hunting stuff. SO the look for a replacement
Requirements are pretty clear, I'am nearing 50 yrs. Driving for the last many years got Dl in 1986 and with over 3 or 4 lakh kms driving throughout INdia (My most favourite adventure was a Mumbai-Kerala drive when I was in college) Well at the time Mumbai-pune-Kolhapur-Hubli-Sirsi-Kumta- Manglore-cochin took me a good 30-32 odd hours, The best being the ghat sections near sirsi in july-august, rain makes the place a real adventure at night....
Now I'am more subtle and settled, and I need the following
Must Have
1. Reasonably Priced
2. Driver seat height adjust
3. ABS that is a real good thing to have
4. Rear washer and wiper
5. Reverse camera. (nothing more safe than to see if those kids are playing behind in my blind spot)
6. Day night IRVM
7. Fog lamps (not driving lamps, The real yellow ones too use in fog)
8. Diesel, (Torque at low-mid range is what you need on Indian roads, Of course you always pollute less when you burn less fuel too and also the $$saving and higher resale)
Preferred requirements-nice to have (when two models provide the above)
1. An automatic (getting old)
2. rear defogger
3. Automatic irvm day night
4. Parking assist sensor (well some noise is good)
5.Navigation (hmmm some-what my phone does that too anyway)
6.Steering wheel controls for volume track phone.
Nuisance-means you have to buy these if you want to get what you need
companies decide what is best for you , so they can make merry of your misfortune, some are somewhat useful too, well just in case
Projector lamps, Airbags (this is the most feared thing in cars for me, because of their history), Alloy wheels (costly showoff), DRL (hehe),
Well looked the following, and fixed a budget of Rs. 10 lakhs on road maximum
1. Hyundai i10 AT , No more driver seat height adjust in automatic, You get all the surplus in Hyundai's factory, DRL, Alloys and all stuff. cost on road 7.63
2. TATA Tigor, This is perhaps the best car in the segment made today, Petrol and diesel both are a turn off on paper. Yet to get a test drive. All TATA does is send text messages and some Gentlemen and Ladies calling and asking to book. No one knows when a TD will be given...
3. IGNIS. Excellent if I can convince my son to accept the looks, But he does not want it, Even I think the persons who designed the front may be smoking too much weed. No offence intended!!, But the thing is good, It has everything. period. maybe it is going to be it!! by the way things are moving. Maybe a couple of smaller diameter round twin headlights or a pop up healamp like the old celica GT, would have made it awesome.
4.Tiago XZA, well it has most stuff, Even a driving assist, (wont accept it as automatic, that is the real thing but reasonable and excellent solution for an otherwise complex problem)A mapmyindia smart mirror thing could make it my choice, again TATA wont let me drive it lol....no vehicle available.
So tried the Ford figo AT, not as smooth as Hyundais torque converter, and more moody and unpredictable, than my better half when you leave the clutch, otherwise works ok. And a good nice driving position. Call it feedback or whatever I dont like the way Figo wrestles me when I turn it at speed. May be good for racing or something, Well have to say the nose goes where I want it to very quickly, but the rear is a little twitchy if you apply left and right too fast.
Now Honda has promised me an awesome deal with exchange for their BRIO. Maybe that AT will do, Have to plonk a camera into it, But going by what i see on internet options for replacing sock ICE with good ones are available, Have to find out if there is space for speakers at rear.
Also if I'am missing anything please advice, I'am approaching this with a very open mind. I can say Hyundai guys who bought the TD does not have any idea as to what the various boxes which I see in the engine bay are for, I had to close inspect to find out one was a fuse box, just behind the battery, There is another vertically mounted stuff behind hat which no one seems to know what for?
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