[QUOTE=TSIVipul;518617]Welcome on board Vinz
Bangalore traffic indeed needs an automatic car only.
> Your Location: Bangalore
> Top Five Priorities: Performance, Safety, Comfort, Low Maintenance, Features
> Monthly Running: Not More than 1000 kms (Average 700 kms)
> Type of Fuel: Preferred Petrol, do not mind Diesel in SUV
I would suggest you take a look at Ecosport DCT here, if you need only a sedan then you can try Vento TSi or a CVT City if you aren't much keen on the driving experience. |
For 5 on board and comfortable seating for all, only Honda City or Ciaz qualifies. If 4 + 1 kid is there then everything qualifies.
> Type of Segment: Sedan Preferred
Either City CVT or Vento TSi. Ciaz IMO has nothing except space. If you was looking for a manual then Ciaz is definitely a very strong contender but with an auto tranny the Ciaz is the worst thing you can buy out of your money in this segment. City with even a CVT feels better than Ciaz at times, but only at times. |
Rapid will give you a diesel automatic and not a petrol one. This is where Vento TSi comes into the picture.
I am owning VW cars since a couple of months and their service as well as after sales have come a long way. Basically in a City or Ciaz you will be paying 6000-7500 bucks per service (even for the initial ones - ask any owner) every 10k kms. On a Vento you will get the bills ranging from 8000-11000 every 15,000 kms, so the maintenance is more or less same with a difference of around 10-15%. For this higher maintenance you get a better built car, an awesome engine, fantastic interior fit and finish, superior driving experience and of course novelty.
My suggestions would be if petrol automatic is needed then:
Ford Ecosport DCT
Volkswagen Vento TSi
Honda City CVT
I have seen people getting crushed to death in Ciaz and Vitara Brezza and people coming out alive from Vento, Polo and Rapid from even worse accidents. Honda City is a different thing but Ciaz is entirely different.
Crash tests are basically three tests conducted in controlled environment and can never tell the complete story. Going by your logic, a Liva is as safe as a Punto; sorry dear, I don't buy this.
Ciaz has poor sheet metal which flexes time and again (hence more chances of dents even on minor touch), poor build which results in door pad rattling etc in long run, poor quality interior plastic and it feels el cheapo inside once you are in rear seat. Even the steering, power window buttons, door pads and the rear seat itself feels from a segment below; heck, it doesn't even has proper rear seat headrests. One can say that City also didn't have them but the seat design in City is so perfect that it doesn't need the adjustable units.
Honda City is Honda City, both these cars are poles apart and City any day deserves 2 lac premium over the Ciaz.
I dont agree fully , agreed Ciaz fit and finish on the inside is obviously from the maruti parts bin but not structure, Im gonna fully trust NCAP results and my own eyes to judge NCAP results and say they are on par,at least in India.
See Polo, it scores zero stars without airbags and with airbags , it scores 4 stars. Thats certainly saying something about quality of all cars that make it to India
Have you considered driver error in the Ciaz and Brezza incidents or even situation? You can never say for certain but NCAP is a standard
Also sheet metal is never the standard to judge a car safety, the chassis etc matters more
If sheet metal was a standard to judge car safety, then HM Ambassador should be at the very top, after all its a rebadged Morris
Also Ecosport DCT isnt the best transmission for traffic, being a dual clutch, itll require more attention since they dont play well with bumper to bumper
A Vento or Rapid wont be easy on the pocket or give ease of mind imho in the long run
I owned a Superb 2010 until 2015 and a CR-V 2007 till 2016 and trust me , the bills , unreliability etc were extremely bad in the Skoda. I know both cant be compared easily but since they are from nearly the same price segment, Im comparing them.
The Honda gave me much better piece of mind
Both ran for 76k km before being sold
My CR-V was nearly as cheap to maintain as my City
Ciaz is a good car for what it does and is probably not an enthusiast's car but Im sure it offers more piece of mind than Skoda/VW if not for driveability on open roads
@F4frewin here also mentioned that their Fiesta was easier to maintain and lesser hassles than Vento
OP should opt for Honda City imho, nothing will be close to being an all-rounder like it in this segment
Originally Posted by kishore108
No offense buddy.
Hope the OT
buys the best car that suits his requirement.
None taken sir, just a discussion :)
Originally Posted by allhyundaicars
I will be honest with you. My friend bought the 3rd generation honda city and I was pleasantly surprised with the interior quality. It was like a car ahead of its time. Truly remarkable.
But the 4th gen isn't something special. In January I recommend a verna diesel to a friend and he bought the same. I compared the cost and features (middle vatiants) and city was turning out to be more expensive than the verna (after discounts) with so much cost cutting and less features.Believe me the hyundai showroom had a proper fat book explaining the same cost cutting which I told my friend earlier.
The 4th gen is good but not worth the price. Honda turned down the quality but still asking the premium like before. No offence but you seem like a person believing in the old honda quality and word of mouth but the real thing is very much different.
I didn't recommend the Ciaz because the car has flimsy interiors , honda city has evident cost cutting , verna after discounts is vfm
My friend was getting rapid for 1 lakh less than the verna and that was my first recommendation but his dad didn't want to buy skoda for obvious reasons.
So yeah my recommendation will be the rapid > verna > ciaz > city. City at last just because of the price.
Not true, after owning cars by all 3 brands- Honda,Skoda,Maruti
Im never buying a German as my main car again
Too unreliable, too pricey to maintain
I own the 3rd gen City, my front door neighbour owns 2 of the the 4th gen
4th gen improves on alot of things such as seating position etc, personally I prefered the looks of the 3rd gen but thats purely personal opinion
If I were to sell my City and buy a new car to replace it, I wont look further than Honda City 4th gen