Looking For a New Car...ummm SUV?

[AMG]

Suspension is not an engine that will change according to the way its run-in.

[dhoom9]

Originally Posted by AMG

Suspension is not an engine that will change according to the way its run-in.

I don't know about TF, but it is there in Audi Q3 dynamic.

Originally Posted by dhoom9

The Q3 Dynamic is the range-topper and sits above the Premium+ trim level.

Highlight of this trim is the Audi Drive Select system. It allows the driver to adjust the suspension setting as per the situation. The Audi Drive Select system has three modes; comfort, auto and dynamic. The Comfort mode softens the suspension for a comfortable ride, while the dynamic mode offers a stiffer ride for better handling. The auto mode adjusts the suspensions automatically as per road conditions and driving styles.

Autocar

[pras12000]

Thanks Dhoom9, Releesh and AMG. A lot of TDs have gone down now. I personally dont like the Rexton. Maybe the looks or maybe just that its too gimmicky for me. TF is always the default option but its a tad too bland (owned an altis before and trust the ASS though) and too many of them on the road for my liking.

interestingly, i also found a 3 year old freelander 2 for around 35, tempted me for a bit. Not sure what to make of it. Though I suspect the maintenance costs will be a bomb.

So called the PS dealer yesterday just to TD the beast with the wife and he says PS Auto 4x2 is to be launched on Nov 15. Asked him whats the difference and he says the bumper and fog lights will change, MID included rest seems same.

Well it aint a 4x4, but guess a Paj is a Paj. The hearts already going the Paj way, matter of a few weeks before I make up my mind. Fingers crossed.

[pras12000]

Update from the PS dealer. PS Auto may possibly be priced cheaper than the manual and the current manual one may also have a price reduction. 15th is the launch day. More details expected.

[TSIVipul]

All said and done, you can be happy buying anything until you end up driving a Pajero(I am exception, love the older paj, hate the newer and always rate T-Fort higher than that).
And since you need an auto as well as 4X4, then I guess PS is the best option.

[pras12000]

@TSIVipul. Maybe true. Being pulled towards the Paj with each passing day

BTW, the Toyota dealer called too. Said TF 4x4 auto was on the way, possibly by December. Knowing Toyota would expect it to be more expensive though.

[TSIVipul]

Originally Posted by pras12000

@TSIVipul. Maybe true. Being pulled towards the Paj with each passing day

BTW, the Toyota dealer called too. Said TF 4x4 auto was on the way, possibly by December. Knowing Toyota would expect it to be more expensive though.

I know that Paj Sport owners may jeer at me after reading this post(note: I have pushed this car more than even owners may have done), but I guess my reason for liking the Fortuner is valid. Especially for anyone who drives himself and drives a lot.

First of all, Fortuner 4X4 M/T costs around 27.5 here in Delhi, so 4X4 A/T may cost around 28.5.

In case they remove the low ratios(like most of the manufacturers do in 4X4 A/T's; no 1 crore SUVs here please) then you can expect it to fell near or equal to the 4X4 m/t itself. Maybe same is the story that the dealer told you; remove the low ratios(or maybe even 4X4) and price it lower than 4X4 M/T.

After experiencing both the cars enough, what I have experience is that 'except the ride quality and the mid range thrust that the 2.5l D-ID engine packs, Paj doesn't have much to offer that can beat the T-Fort'.

Fortuner has got an engine that pulls way better at slower speeds(say mumbai traffic) and this pull goes even better when you hit hilly roads. Oh, c'mon man.. you can't keep on pressing on gas to keep your car revving above 2000 rpm to get some serious performance.

There are other factors like A.S.S. etc, something where PS stands nowhere in front of Fort!

For a person whose car is going to spend most of its time on city roads, Fortuner is the one to go for - IMO. Only if you can live with slightly bumpy suspension setup! But there is a remedy of this issue too; slightly higher speeds that what you carry normally and the tighter suspension setup do start absorbing the bumps quite well.

BTW is it only me or some more people feel that there is something wrong with the side profile of Paj sport?

Still, if you need a 4X4 for the work of a 'proper 4X4' then it is still the Paj! Rest let's wait and watch what these 4X4 boxes have on offer on t-Fort and PS!

[bhvm]

The AT thing got me stuck here.
Otherwise a wide variety of options open up.
I will not suggest pajero or Fortuner. They're outdated dumbags selling for outragous prices.
Try a TD of Rexton R7. You may like the AT and 2.7L engine.

If you want to squeeze in heavy traffic of bombay, try something smaller, Like duster or Ecosport. (NO AT)

[pras12000]

haha. you just ticked a whole lot of Paj lovers TSIVipul. Watch out for the barrage.

As for the toyota, i have owned an altis before. couldnt agree more with you on the A.S.S and the practicality of their cars. Gets the job done effortlessly and as if bullet proof reliability was ever an issue their service network takes care of whatever little doubt you ever had.

As for what holds me against the Tfort, you said it there it is the suspension. On crater roads (and I have tried it) its quite a handful to manage. PS might be relatively better here. On power, havent tried either of them on hilly roads or long drives so cant comment. Fit and finish both seem quite alright although PS does seem like the Innova from the inside.

As for 4x4 auto, as one of my friends realized, his auto Montero had to be pulled out of the slush by a 4x4 Paj! So much for convenience.

[TSIVipul]

Originally Posted by bhvm

If you want to squeeze in heavy traffic of bombay, try something smaller, Like duster or Ecosport. (NO AT)

Nothing beats a Skoda Yeti then!!
My hot favorite, compactness of a hatchback, dynamics and comfort of a sedan and utility of an SUV with a very intelligent Haldex 4X4 system.

Originally Posted by pras12000

haha. you just ticked a whole lot of Paj lovers TSIVipul. Watch out for the barrage.

awaiting with eyes wide open.

As for the toyota, i have owned an altis before. couldnt agree more with you on the A.S.S and the practicality of their cars. Gets the job done effortlessly and as if bullet proof reliability was ever an issue their service network takes care of whatever little doubt you ever had.

As for what holds me against the Tfort, you said it there it is the suspension. On crater roads (and I have tried it) its quite a handful to manage.

NExt time do with a speed of 5 kph higher than what you tried last time.

PS might be relatively better here. On power, havent tried either of them on hilly roads or long drives so cant comment. Fit and finish both seem quite alright although PS does seem like the Innova from the inside.

I guess the barrage from PS owners is what you need to watch out even more then me. BTW there is no touch screen too and I am yet to use those compass and all as I still believe in watching outside on the road than on the compass. In fact Fiat has offered them on Avventura if one needs them at 1/4th the price.

As for 4x4 auto, as one of my friends realized, his auto Montero had to be pulled out of the slush by a 4x4 Paj! So much for convenience.

That's the exact thing to watch out for. A 4X4 without low ratio box may be what is coming. BTW introduction of paddle shift on Pajero Sport A/T is a welcome move.

[pras12000]

A quick update. Just booked my Pajero Sport AT last Sunday. Looking to pick my 2015 model in the first week. Will keep you guys posted.

[vijay]

Just went throught this thread and finally looking at where you heart was settled came the news of pajero.
Many congratulations on your new ride.Hope it serves you best as you wanted.
Which shade?

[pras12000]

Thanks Vijay. White is the color, without the decals too :-)