Advice on Amplifier and Woofer

[cooladitya007]

@ raj ok then i will go to my installer and ask him if he can give me a demo of sony sub (i doubt he can),if i get more bass then i will request him to change my jbl woofer to sony.

[raj_5004]

if he is a good installer, he should give you a demo.

i would also repeat what i wrote in the other thread:

dont get too involved in the specs & exact prices. they vary like anything. ultimately, its the sound that the product delivers that matters. in comps or sub, dont look at the max RMS/power values always. they matter when you play the music at full blast, that is, 90-100% of the max volume. how often would you do that? if you do that often, in any case, you would blow up your sub or comps soon!

i was getting 100W RMS Ground Zero comps for the same price of a 70W RMS Illusions electras. i opted for the illusions & believe me, i am very happy. i feel GZ comps is no match for it.

at normal volume, both the JBL as well as the sony will be equally loud. JBL will sound sweeter IMO. only at full blast which by the way is not recommended, sony will have an edge.

but anyways, do a back to back comparo by asking for a demo & judge yourself.

if i was in your place, instead of investing more money in a new sub, i would have gone for new/better comps & better wiring.

[cooladitya007]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

if he is a good installer, he should give you a demo.

i would also repeat what i wrote in the other thread:

at normal volume, both the JBL as well as the sony will be equally loud. JBL will sound sweeter IMO. only at full blast which by the way is not recommended, sony will have an edge.

but anyways, do a back to back comparo by asking for a demo & judge yourself.

if i was in your place, instead of investing more money in a new sub, i would have gone for new/better comps & better wiring.

i will just use 1 sub,just want some review on sony XS-GTX150LE
i havent heard them so no idea about them just want to compare sony with jbl,if sony is good then i will exchange my jbl woofer to sony otherwise i will keep my jbl .after reading your post now i am sure you are showing me right way.i will change my head unit and then fron speaker to compos.

[mukeshus]

Hey aditya all Sony World centre's here in Bangalore give a demo with the setup's already connected on a wooden plank.
So better visit a Sony Centre then to your ICE setup fellow.

[cooladitya007]

@ mukesh thanks but i dont think they give demo with XS-GTX150LE they just have 1 amp with 1 basic woofer with 3 pair of speakers and 5-6 hu,but still its a good idea i will try to visit a sony world asap.

[cooladitya007]

stiil i have many questions and not getting answers

if i add another amp (2ch) to my car (swifr Dzire Ldi) do i need a capacitor?

[cooladitya007]

when i will change my HU i need another RCA cable,what is the cost of branded RCA cable?i am on tight budget.

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by cooladitya007

stiil i have many questions and not getting answers

if i add another amp (2ch) to my car (swifr Dzire Ldi) do i need a capacitor?

No.

the function of a capacitor is different. It is useful when there are two powerful subs in your car. When these subs pump, they take up a lot of power. The capacitor stores some power for these subs so that they never miss a beat. You should not think about adding a capacitor unless you get the essentials first.

if you have money for the cap, think about investing that money in a better HU or better wiring than adding a capacitor.

Originally Posted by cooladitya007

when i will change my HU i need another RCA cable,what is the cost of branded RCA cable?i am on tight budget.

A lot of brands are available depending on your budget. Good brands are Ground Zero, JBL, Scosche, Monster cables, etc.

You can also go for a complete wiring kit like this one-

Hermit Audio Pvt. Ltd.

this one consists of "8 Gauge Amp wiring kit, 5m RCA, 5m Speaker Cable, 60A AGU Fuseholder, Other accessories" & costs about 3k.

[cooladitya007]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

No.

the function of a capacitor is different. It is useful when there are two powerful subs in your car. When these subs pump, they take up a lot of power. The capacitor stores some power for these subs so that they never miss a beat. You should not think about adding a capacitor unless you get the essentials first.

agree with you raj my first upgrade is a new HU for sure, but i am talking about my furtur upgrades,look if i add another amp for 2nd sub or rear speaker i have to go for a 3Rca HU,which cost me 3k more then 2Rca so its like 3Rca HU 3k(+) + 2Ch amp 3k(+) + capacitor not sure but i guess 5k(+) +wiring (minimum .5k to 2k+)=11.5k minimum so if this is what i have to pay for adding another amp then i am very happy with my single 4Ch amp.dont want to go for another amp.


if you have money for the cap, think about investing that money in a better HU or better wiring than adding a capacitor.

i want to buy a new HU asap.

A lot of brands are available depending on your budget. Good brands are Ground Zero, JBL, Scosche, Monster cables, etc.

here i am talking about single RCA cable only what is the aprox cost.even MRP. will help me.

You can also go for a complete wiring kit like this one-

Hermit Audio Pvt. Ltd.

this one consists of "8 Gauge Amp wiring kit, 5m RCA, 5m Speaker Cable, 60A AGU Fuseholder, Other accessories" & costs about 3k.

which one is batter 8" gauge 0r 6" gauge?

[raj_5004]

0 guage is the best & the costliest. the more you increase the number, the thickness of the wire decreases along with the price.

so 0 is better than 4 is better than 6 is better than 8.

[cooladitya007]

@ raj please re read the above post i have some more questions.

[ilango[speed thirst]]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

0 guage is the best & the costliest. the more you increase the number, the thickness of the wire decreases along with the price.

so 0 is better than 4 is better than 6 is better than 8.

0 4 are used for high end system

for your basic kinda set up , 8 is enough.

we have installed a car with -2 , so far the costliest!

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by cooladitya007

agree with you raj my first upgrade is a new HU for sure, but i am talking about my furtur upgrades,look if i add another amp for 2nd sub or rear speaker i have to go for a 3Rca HU,which cost me 3k more then 2Rca so its like 3Rca HU 3k(+) + 2Ch amp 3k(+) + capacitor not sure but i guess 5k(+) +wiring (minimum .5k to 2k+)=11.5k minimum so if this is what i have to pay for adding another amp then i am very happy with my single 4Ch amp.dont want to go for another amp.

No, you dont necessarily need to add a capacitor. Capacitors are generally used with 2 high end subs which draw a low of power, unlike the basic subs.

here i am talking about single RCA cable only what is the aprox cost.even MRP. will help me.

not really sure of the individual price, i bought as a kit.

Also, 6 AWG or 8AWG are just the power cables. The speaker cables would be 16 or 18 AWG.

in my car, i have scosche RCA cables, 6 AWG Earthquake power cables & 16 AWG speaker wires. I'll post a pic for you if i can.



@ ilango: i have not heard of -2 Guage till now.

[cooladitya007]

Originally Posted by raj_5004

No, you dont necessarily need to add a capacitor. Capacitors are generally used with 2 high end subs which draw a low of power, unlike the basic subs.

so in future i can add another 2ch amp with a jbl cs1215 like woofer without capacitor, sounds good to me.


not really sure of the individual price, i bought as a kit.

need help what is cost of branded rca cable only rca cable someone please help.

Also, 6 AWG or 8AWG are just the power cables. The speaker cables would be 16 or 18 AWG.

if i am not wrong speakers also comes with speaker cables can we use that cables with ampl??

in my car, i have scosche RCA cables, 6 AWG Earthquake power cables & 16 AWG speaker wires. I'll post a pic for you if i can.

thanks a lot.


@ ilango: i have not heard of -2 Guage till now.

ilango why dont you help me on Rca man.

[raj_5004]

Originally Posted by cooladitya007

so in future i can add another 2ch amp with a jbl cs1215 like woofer without capacitor, sounds good to me.

yes.

need help what is cost of branded rca cable only rca cable someone please help.

Ilango is the guy.

if i am not wrong speakers also comes with speaker cables can we use that cables with ampl??

i dont think speakers come with wires. you will have to buy wires separately.

Attached pics of my Earthquake wiring. First one is Power cable while second is speaker wires.