Originally Posted by Wind
My safari storme was stolen from my house on the the night of 9th September. I have got both the keys and also the gear lock was engaged. I want to know the technical possibilities that how could thieves took away the car which has an inbuilt immobilizer and
is it so easy for the thieves to make a duplicate key.
Sorry to hear that buddy, I hope you have registered a police complain on the next morning or night itself.
Now start wishing that:
- Either the car gets traced and discovered in the same state as it was before getting stolen, if not; then better cops don't find it out
- The car hasn't got involved in some criminal activity till now and doesn't get involved in something at least before you get the insurance money
How can thieves take away the car? By byepassing the immobilizer circuit, this is what I was told by an electronic engineer.
Have a parallel circuit to the one with an immobilizer and your ECU will keep thinking that the immobilizer hasn't objected the triggering of the ignition. Hence your ECU will trigger the ignition and the vehicle starts. Gear Lock:
I guess there is something called master key for these simple mechanical locks and the professional thieves have access to all such things.
Cars from outside the house are not stolen instantly, this is something done after proper recce and what not. Maybe your car is stolen now but maybe they were monitoring your movements, timings etc since a couple of weeks. If you can make out someone suspicious like an unknown person who suddenly started roaming around during night times but has disappeared now etc can be a clue. IMO
this one seems to be a hifi gang like the ones who steal the vehicles on demand. They know the preference like color choice, vehicle make etc of the buyer and then they first discover the vehicle and then steal it (Stealing Swift, Bolero or Scorpio is fine as they are hot in black market but Safari Storme isn't something they will steal for a hit and trial game of selling). There are chances that your car is already somewhere far enough or out of the reach of Delhi cops.
Originally Posted by Akash1886
Hacking the RFID Tag on front windshield.
Not of much use sirji
Opening door with scale after dis-arming the central lock buzzer.
Neither thieves have this much time to first disarm the buzzer and then move ahead nor they take the risks of being present at the location for so long. It takes them hardly 4-5 minutes to drive away in the stolen car.
Secondly, opening the door with the scale is near impossible for vehicles like Storme. Adding to this the door latch and actuator motor doesn't let the scale move the system to unlock position even after one applies a lot of force on it.
If the gear lock is U-Clamp one, can be broken by hammer.
Using a master key for ignition.
Good possibility. I guess BHVM can answer this one. @BHVM:
Sirji is it possible to have a master key for these immobilizer circuits?