. This is a discussion on Alloy Requirement and Sizing For Swift VXI within Accessories & Modifications. Part of The Mech's Garage category; Well I asked him & he said any may come. Will ask him to check specifically tomorrow.
In any case ...
Accelere 185 size will be better option for you. They are comfortable, beautiful thread design that will increse the looks of the car. They are VFM and a compromise of all. Other wise go for premium tires for more comfort. there i no tire cut issues for Michelins tires now. all the premium tires mentioned are each at least 1000 rs or more costier to the lower varients of JK/MRF/Good year/appolo tires.
Incase you are looking for MRF, check out MRF ZLO tires.
Last edited by Releesh; 13th October 2014 at 04:15 PM.
The car came with Bridgestone B series tyres. In couple of days, I have driven them around 40km to get various things done to my car. Any suggestions?
I am thinking of upgrading to alloys at my 2nd service- at 6 months. The reason is bank balance. My account has basically been halved through the purchase of accessories, extended warranty, AMC, rust proofing, FUCOT top cote and other "necessary" modifications. Needless to say the car feels very nice and plush but my BB doesnt
Last edited by ameyam; 22nd October 2014 at 08:55 PM.
after braving indifferent brakes for a few weeks and having a couple of screeching panic stops, I finally measured and found 15mm of play in the brake pedal last night before the brake lights were activated. Took it to the MASS today and they confirmed the issue and removed the play. Now the braking effect is lower. Guess they didnt top off the oil. My service is due next saturday, so will have them fix it then. In the meantime, I am really considering alloys again
Sai Service offers Sai mag wheels as well as Neo wheels as accessories. I believe its more expensive than market. AFAIK both have lifetime warranty. If nothing, atleast they will keep my brakes better cooled. Any suggestions which I should go for? Should I look at any other make? Should I get them installed at Sai Service or from an authorised dealer?
Also, should I get my stock liners replaced with Brembo or something?
Brake problems sorted. High clutch bite point also resolved. Resolved the panel fitting issue as well. Now, the only consideration of alloys is left
In the meantime, there are new alloys available with the dealership. I really liked this 1st picture 10 spoke design and it seems to be marginally lighter than the other. Its also a closer match to my glistening grey colour.
Didnt like the 2nd one, though elegant. It more common on the road.
The 3nd one is actually intended for the Celerio but fits the Swift as well. I liked it too. It will be easier to clean as well
The pics are a bit darker than reality. They all cost the same. Dont pay attention to the apparend scratches on the wheels, they are issues with the camera
What do you TAIans feel? Let me know
Last edited by ameyam; 13th December 2014 at 05:52 PM.
IF you are interested to buy alloy & tire, buy the stock alloy of Swift ZXi in 15' and also change the tire. I dont prefer to buy these 14"s from showroom. There are more than 100 different designs from good brands will be available in outside tire shops and they look way better than these alloys.They may be less costlier than this ones. Black with silver combination will be look good for swift.
Last edited by Releesh; 15th December 2014 at 11:32 AM.
I know that there are a lot of options available outside. However, it is an aftermarket upgrade. If I get these installed from the dealership itself, the entire car will be under warranty cover from one agency, so they cant shirk off any issues. Plus the rate is just + 100 Rs from the same design from outside.
There is another thing- these alloys are a bit lighter than outside. I read on another forum that the Maruti / Suzuki alloys that are actually made by Enkei are actually lighter than the same design Neo alloys by 2.5kg each. Its quite surprising info but the guy actually measured it.
Finally, I don't intend to change tyres now- I got 165/80- R14 as stock. I know the ZXI comes with 175/65R15 and the change does look nice. But, based on the slightly thrashy ride I have with stock now, I think that the zxi's suspension may be tweaked to maintain ride quality with the larger alloys. Plus, my tyres have just done 1050km, so no point having them replaced now
I did mockup the alloys using mspaint so we can get a feel for how the car will look with them. Not the best effort but I believe that these pictures are sufficient for the look and feel. The pictures are below. The last picture, of course, is stock. Let me have your impressions
MS has chosen the tyre size wisely either in 14 or 15 inches. The diameter in both case remains approximately same.
Regarding weight calculation to tweak suspension, normally companies get approval for ±1 inches upgrade for tyres from ARAI. So if the TOP variant has 15" then it may have 14" or 16" wheel [but will have match the circumference].
According to my knowledge you should have 15 inch wheel with 185/60 R15 tyre, which is best suited for new Swift.
You can think of BUYBACK offer at tyre dealers for tyre replacement.
The zxi comes with 185/65r15 alloys (sorry for my typo in earlier post). My swift vxi came with 165/85 r14. I have no intentions of tyre replacement as it will be too expensive. Not budget limited on alloys though. Its just to have a single point of responsibility. plus the weight difference between MS & aftermarket.
The 2nd pic tyre is standard with the Renault Duster, so very common on the road. I am deliberating between 1st & 3rd. The 1st makes the car look more sporty & the third more elegant, dont you think?
it look nice but I am looking for that elegant look that doesn't hurt the eyes. I chose the grey over white and silver for the same reason. It just looks a nice car and the alloys should complement. If a tall, I am thinking I will go for pic no 3 above. Reason is that pic1 would really look nice if the wheels were bigger / with a thinner profile. Pic2 is now very common as it comes stock with the Duster. Somehow, I feel a matching shade to the body will get a more elegant look.
I had asked for advice on tyre and rim replacement before I received the car. Didn't get any guidance in the rim department. No one specifically suggested to go for lower profile tyres and rim replacement immediately upon delivery, so I decided to do it later
Just one query- I am looking for form over function. As I under stand, alloys will help in
1) Reducing unsprung mass, so it will reduce the unsuspended weight when going over potholes. Not quite sure I am explaining this correctly, but I am told it will improve the longevity of the suspension
2) Reduce the tyre degradation in case of minor misalignment
3) Offer better steering response as the steering servo has to push a lighter weight around
4) Tyre life improvement in the long runs as the tyre doesn't get as hot. I don't have too much of national highway running though.
5) Lastly, and most importantly, better braking response and brake pad life
Please correct if my understanding is wrong. If the improvements are only marginal, I am really considering dropping the idea altogether and remaining stock till my steel rims rust and requiring changing
I personally believe the improvements are marginal specially for daily city use. Yes, brakes would cool faster, however the cost is not justified for increasing brake pad life by 6 months. This is absolutely my opinion though. 95% of the people buy it for the looks department.