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Marun 6th October 2010 09:30 AM

Thanks for the circuit diagram gears.
Its a bit of confusing to me. Where is the power input to the ballast? I guess that is not mentioned in the kit.
I believe the HID in diagram has both high beam and low beam in it(Bi-Xenon). [:)]

ajaskochi 6th October 2010 09:24 PM

Hi ,

The Diagram shwon above will be for the H4-2 in which the Low beam is Xenon n High beam is Halogen . I had used this setup in my car previously . It does not require the relay unit & worked for me .

I went to some other mechanics with the switch issue & they all are telling that if tampered with the electrical the BCU inside the Headlight unit will get damaged & costs anywhere around 1600 - 2000 rs & they suggest that the switch method is the best solution for this

In between now i am thinking that i have the H4-2 bulbs removed from my car & make a try to install it in the bike without the relay and all . If it works without any switches and all that would be better for me .

Member91040 6th October 2010 10:50 PM

Thanks gears, Hope to see your diagram, Soon, Any how my bulb is push and pull, The bulb which is shown in your diagram, is bit different, is there any change in wring to, Could you be please in detail.

gears1313 7th October 2010 01:08 AM

@marun, ajaskochi, member91040: I have biixenon type bulb, which goes in and out. You can see on page no 5 of this thread, i have posted an example. Well i dont say that the diagram provided with my kit was of my hid, but it was anyhow helpful for my mechanic as a reference before the fitting.
Well my pc is crashed and is gone for repairing which might take few days, so the reply regarding the diagram which needs attachment of the pics; would be delayed. Currently i am using my cellfone to reply here! So i donno how to post pics using cellfone! Sorry for the inconvinence.

Member91040 7th October 2010 11:17 PM

Gears your page 5 pics are exact to my bulb also, but low beam only work on stock switch, Hope to see your diag. soon. when your pc is back. Till then i'll find help some were.

gears1313 8th October 2010 12:52 AM

@member91040: okay buddy, but please dont take help with unprofessional mechanics, else you will end up messing up the kit!!

Member91040 8th October 2010 11:16 PM

Thanks bro, Just before going to any setup by myself, i am finding the best professional, In town, First a fall ill tell him the whole prob, If he is confident then only ill agree. Bec this would be the second time by bike would be open up, So i don't want to resik my other original wiring and mess up the big problem, Before enjoying it would be the end. Any Diagram from your side would be more help to my mechanic.

gears1313 9th October 2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Member91040 (Post 52956)
Thanks bro, Just before going to any setup by myself, i am finding the best professional, In town, First a fall ill tell him the whole prob, If he is confident then only ill agree. Bec this would be the second time by bike would be open up, So i don't want to resik my other original wiring and mess up the big problem, Before enjoying it would be the end. Any Diagram from your side would be more help to my mechanic.

@Member91040: Thats the reason i m saying, because my bike's headlight has been opened for some 6-8 times, and this has messed up all the bolts of the headlights. I think the people did not used proper tools, which had made the bolts slipery!! [frustration]

I think regarding the wiring, you might not be having any problem regarding the connections of the bulb to the blaster and the remaining wiring because thats easy and you simply have to match the similar plugs.

I feel the main problem comes when the setup has to be connected to the bike. Now, i think there are three outputs left after setting up the Hid, blaster and the bulb with each other!
One will be the Headlight's plug, which has to be connected to the OE bulb's socket.
Secondly, the positive battery wire which have to be connected to the battery.
Thirdly, the earthing wire which has to be connected to the bike's body; in my case it has been connected with the front numberplate's bracket.

And thats it!

Now i think this is the simplest I can explain, hope it is helpful!

Member91040 9th October 2010 10:32 PM

Thank you for your response bro, Ill let your know tom..! What is going to next from my mechanic end.

ajaskochi 10th October 2010 03:21 AM

Quote:

One will be the Headlight's plug, which has to be connected to the OE bulb's socket.
Secondly, the positive battery wire which have to be connected to the battery.
Thirdly, the earthing wire which has to be connected to the bike's body; in my case it has been connected with the front numberplate's bracket.

And thats it!
My electrician has done as explained before but he is telling that the the output of the OE socket does not provide enough current for the ballast .Hence the Light gets off . Now what he has done is removed the two beams pins from the OE socket & added a switch onto it & its working this way now
But the Xtra switch i feel will not last during the rains now in Kochi

So waiting for your fitting diagram

gears1313 10th October 2010 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaskochi (Post 53176)
My electrician has done as explained before but he is telling that the the output of the OE socket does not provide enough current for the ballast .Hence the Light gets off . Now what he has done is removed the two beams pins from the OE socket & added a switch onto it & its working this way now
But the Xtra switch i feel will not last during the rains now in Kochi

So waiting for your fitting diagram

Aaaree there is nothing special in my fitting diagram, its normal, no modifications. I think there must be some fault in the ballast!
But,
Dude wait a minute, are you telling that the light goes off after 5secs? Becasue you might be knowing that P180UG4 is having DC current for five seconds only. I mean when the key is turned to on position! But after the bike is started the light is continously on. My HID too switches off as the OE bulb after 5secs in the on position. So make this aspect clear!![surprise]

ajaskochi 11th October 2010 02:12 PM

Hi

The light cut off feature in P180 UG4 is when the bike is not in the starting mode . But my HID problem occurs even in the Starting mode . It gets off within few seconds ,then turns on & also at that time when tried to change beams using OE switches nothing happens .

If it is a ballast problem then how could i use it nicely with a Extra Switch setup ?

gears1313 11th October 2010 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaskochi (Post 53411)
Hi

The light cut off feature in P180 UG4 is when the bike is not in the starting mode . But my HID problem occurs even in the Starting mode . It gets off within few seconds ,then turns on & also at that time when tried to change beams using OE switches nothing happens .

If it is a ballast problem then how could i use it nicely with a Extra Switch setup ?

Hmm, now i got ur problem. Well mine is working fine yaaar!!

blackbeauty 3rd November 2010 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaskochi (Post 53176)
My electrician has done as explained before but he is telling that the the output of the OE socket does not provide enough current for the ballast .Hence the Light gets off . Now what he has done is removed the two beams pins from the OE socket & added a switch onto it & its working this way now
But the Xtra switch i feel will not last during the rains now in Kochi

So waiting for your fitting diagram

In that case, I hope an added relay would help. The OE socket will just activate the relay and the current will be taken directly from battery and will power the ballast.

Cecilia0644 13th December 2010 01:47 PM

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