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dileep.anirudh 10th September 2010 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ilango[speed thirst] (Post 30740)
I felt there is a need for hid thread after today's sale.

Though i have not opened , i got a customer needing a h4 hid
there simple query/request it must be branded


I got a Philips kit for them , it was really good.

Though hid have a good throw with projector , it was equally good in this normal projector.

It is now fixed in r15 and will later go into ANHC

The mrp is 9000/- and i gave it for 8400/-

The set has 2 ballast and 2 lamp and 2 blue parking bulbs

lot of chinese models are available in the market though. reliability is major question on them and bosh has Chinese duplicates too with 'made in taiwan ' printed on them. Insist on warranty[thumbsup]

Hello,

This is my 1st post. hey hi ILANGO It was me who bought these lights from U.

blackbeauty 10th September 2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gears1313 (Post 48507)
Share the info with me to buddy. You remember, earlier I told that my elder bro also owns unicorn and he wants to install HIDs.[surprise]

Sure buddy. Will PM you the link. This method can be used for most of the bikes with single phase coil. The procedure is all same for HH CBZ, Xtreme, Hunk.[:)]
PM me if you have any doubts in that..

ajaskochi 1st October 2010 10:10 PM

@gears1313 - Need Some help Urgently
 
Hi ,

Yesterday i have purcahsed an HID Kit for my Pulsar 180 uG4 . When tried to install there is a problem that when the bike is started & HId light is switched on it get off then again it lights up again , then goes off . The elctrician is saying that it is Due to the problem that the Kit is not getting enought current from the Battery . He then connected the Kit directly to the bike battery & then there is not problem . hence he suggested me to put another switch for the light so that i can turn on the park light as usual but the for turning on the light i have to use an extra switch which he will fit somewhere below the handle . Also i can change the light beams using this switch only & not the switch in the handle

So Plz Explain how you have installed the kit or have u done the method as my technician told

PLZ its urgent

ilango[speed thirst] 1st October 2010 10:22 PM

No need of seperate switch. make present line dummy. use as your electrician.

connect via ignition. else when you park some one may switch on them.

Switch on your lights only after starting your engine and try to keep it off at idling!

Akash 1st October 2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ilango[speed thirst] (Post 52122)
connect via ignition. else when you park some one may switch on them.
Switch on your lights only after starting your engine and try to keep it off at idling!

ajaskochi, i too would suggest you to avoid going for an extra switch which is connected to the battery directly. As Ilango said, get it connected via ignition so that the lights can be turned on only when the ignition is ON. Also these switches often tend to get rusted due to their odd position of installation which is why it is better to get the connection done via OE switches.

ajaskochi 1st October 2010 11:01 PM

Hi

How do i connect it through the Ignition . Plz shed some knowledge . Also the byk is Owned by My Dad & i am using a 220 DTSFi . Me to dissatisfied with the switch type connection coz

1) the switch on the right handle now serve the purpose of turning on the park lights only in any position

2) the Pilot switch ( or 3 position switch ) that he added extra is pasted below the horn switch unit on left handle at an awkward position . Also in the switch the center position is light of , right Low beam n Left High beam .So when switching the beams it gets off for a small instant

3) Now the HIGH /LOW beam switch on the handle is just waste as it does not control anything

Hence i am disappointed that my dad finds it difficult to use & maintain the HID

So Experts PLZ help . Also the Guy who installed it in P180 UG4 ur help is requested

Thanks

gears1313 1st October 2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ajaskochi (Post 52119)
Hi ,

Yesterday i have purcahsed an HID Kit for my Pulsar 180 uG4 . When tried to install there is a problem that when the bike is started & HId light is switched on it get off then again it lights up again , then goes off . The elctrician is saying that it is Due to the problem that the Kit is not getting enought current from the Battery . He then connected the Kit directly to the bike battery & then there is not problem . hence he suggested me to put another switch for the light so that i can turn on the park light as usual but the for turning on the light i have to use an extra switch which he will fit somewhere below the handle . Also i can change the light beams using this switch only & not the switch in the handle

So Plz Explain how you have installed the kit or have u done the method as my technician told

PLZ its urgent

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilango[speed thirst] (Post 52122)
No need of seperate switch. make present line dummy. use as your electrician.

connect via ignition. else when you park some one may switch on them.

Switch on your lights only after starting your engine and try to keep it off at idling!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash (Post 52125)
ajaskochi, i too would suggest you to avoid going for an extra switch which is connected to the battery directly. As Ilango said, get it connected via ignition so that the lights can be turned on only when the ignition is ON. Also these switches often tend to get rusted due to their odd position of installation which is why it is better to get the connection done via OE switches.

A short story about my HID:

I was also told the same thing when I got the HID fitted by their(HID walla) mechanic. He told me that you will have to connect another (extra) switch, which I didnot wanted. So when the HID was connected with the OE setup, only HI beam was working. He told me that you can get only one beam on the OE wiring. I was tensed and was about to drop the HID plan, but any how the output was mouthwatering and awesom so I got the HID fitted that way only.

Later, next day I went to our family mechanic (who repairs our family's two wheelers) and he told that since your bike has DC setup you do not want any kind of alteration or switches, After hearin that I gave him my bike to do the wiring. Later he was also failed to do so.

Hence I rode the bike with HI beam for around 3-4months.

Once I met another (car) electrician, he told after checking that either your bulb is faulty or the blaster. Now again the tension started. Once met my old school friend after ages on a signal and he was too on P180UG4 with HIDs but his hid was working fine. Both HI/Low beams were working on OE switches with OE wiring only. I requested him to show the wiring to my mechanic. And thanks to him, he came next day with his bike. So we started tallying the wiring and all, and found out that my HID wiring was faulty. When his HID wiring was connected to mine, the HID worked fine.

So found some JUGAD walla mechanic after some days, and told him about the problem. He agreed to help me, but he first clarified that wiring might go dead after he would some jhol. I agreed to take the risk. And the result aaha... he did it. some wire inside the wiring near the relay was not working properly(donna exactly). So after that I am enjoying both the beams.

Now for your problem:
I think the electrician might not be a pro in installing the HID. And take my words 'P180 UG4 DOES NOT NEED ANY ALTERATION IN OE WIRING, OR ANY EXTRA SWITCH FOR THE HID'

Check your earthing wire properly.

NOTE: When you remove your headlight, there are bunch of plugs. My electrician has connected the battery wire inside one of that plug. On enquiring he said that why to take the wiring till the battery, if we have the same outlet here. So if your mechanic is a pro, he can fid that easily.

Rest the blaster's H4's plug is connected to the OE H4 bulb's plug, and the rest of the wiring is simple, just connected the similar plugs thats it.

Hope this is helpful!

ajaskochi 2nd October 2010 10:50 AM

Hi
 
Hi ,

So as per your info there is no need to connect the HID kits relays wire to the positive terminal of the battery . In the relay unit there are is a connector which connects the Bulb & the relay , another which connects to the battery & another the Earth .

So as per your setup is there no need of drawing the wire from the HID relay till the battery or is it such that no extra wires from your Kit are connected to your battery

Thanks

gears1313 2nd October 2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ajaskochi (Post 52160)
Hi ,

So as per your info there is no need to connect the HID kits relays wire to the positive terminal of the battery . In the relay unit there are is a connector which connects the Bulb & the relay , another which connects to the battery & another the Earth .

So as per your setup is there no need of drawing the wire from the HID relay till the battery or is it such that no extra wires from your Kit are connected to your battery

Thanks

No buddy. I said there is some wire in the plug which is directly connected to the battery. You connect that wire to the battery, or that plug, its one and the same thing. You have to connect the HId to any one of them.

One more thing, is your HID working fine. I mean have you checked them while buying?[confused]

The best thing is can you remove the HID setup and post the pics, I will edit and post it back. If you can. HID setup is easy in p180ug4!

ajaskochi 3rd October 2010 02:49 PM

Hi ,

The Hid unit has a Relay circuit which has a connector to connect to the battery ,one for the earthing & other connecting to the bulb

I enquired at an bike modifying mechanic & he told that if connected without the switch the light gets on & off frequently . Coz the CD system has to provide enough current to the Back lite switches ,etc . Also if any current problems occur then there is a unit inside the headlight ( a Black box like connector with many wires ) which will get damage & i have to spend rs 1600 for it . Else i have to do a complete rewiring & add coils to extract more current .

Member91040 3rd October 2010 09:25 PM

Gears, I have the same problem bro, I too have pulsar 180 ug4, Due to less knowledge for our electrician, He fitted me a extra switch, and it look to bad brother, could you please help me out the method of wring.

gears1313 4th October 2010 12:05 AM

[QUOTE=ajaskochi;52353]Hi ,

The Hid unit has a Relay circuit which has a connector to connect to the battery ,one for the earthing & other connecting to the bulb

I enquired at an bike modifying mechanic & he told that if connected without the switch the light gets on & off frequently . Coz the CD system has to provide enough current to the Back lite switches ,etc . Also if any current problems occur then there is a unit inside the headlight ( a Black box like connector with many wires ) which will get damage & i have to spend rs 1600 for it . Else i have to do a complete rewiring & add coils to extract more current .



Quote:

Originally Posted by Member91040 (Post 52382)
Gears, I have the same problem bro, I too have pulsar 180 ug4, Due to less knowledge for our electrician, He fitted me a extra switch, and it look to bad brother, could you please help me out the method of wring.

No need of changing any wiring and coiling stuff!

Feeling very sorry for you guys![cry] I now realize the importance of going to professional mechanic.

I really would love to share the wiring with you all, but the thing is that due to constant removing and fitting of the headlight, all the mechanics who has experimented on my bike has done the condition pethatic of the bolts and they are now slipping from the spanner. Also by chance if I removed the headlight, it very tough task to fit it back because all the wires are jumbled behind the headlight and below the digital meter.

Nways guys I will try to find out some way.

But the main thing is are you HIDs proper? I mean Have you all chacked while buying it. I am talking about Bixenons.

gears1313 4th October 2010 12:56 AM

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Hey friends i am attaching the scaned image of the diagram which I got with the kit. Hope this is helpful.[surprise]
It is for H4 bixenons or HI/LOW bulb!

Member91040 4th October 2010 09:52 PM

Thank you for your post brother, I am sure bro, My HID is working fine, with the extra switch i can switch on by it and HI & LOW Beam by it. So the HID is good, I want to remove that switch and make it run on stock switch's. Now any how ill print it out your wring diag..! and compare it my bike. One more thing impp, In your explanation diag..! You are missing RELAY. I have an realay to. My bulb is

http://www.china-hid-lights.com/prod...1212049538.jpg

8000k HID Bulb , H4.

gears1313 6th October 2010 12:52 AM

@member91040: Buddy this was the diagram provided by the kit and my mechanic understood the diagram and then fitted the HID.

Anyways my kit also has a relay and an earthing point which is not mentioned in the diagram provided with the kit.

Hence I will try to make my own diagram, if i can and will post it soon.


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